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cupera1's avatar

Parents do not want their kids groomed/indoctrinated to be victims of pedophiles. With democrats pushing the LGBTQ agenda for boys in a skirt to be able to go into the girls locker rooms and bathrooms and rape their daughters, Loudoun Virginia, are not going over real well with moms and dads.. These parents also see athletic scholarships going to “trans” girls with male genitalia that beat out their daughters. As long as Democrat keep shouting their battle cry of "SEX BEFORE EIGHT ELSE IT’'S TOO LATE" they will continue to lose. No rouge judge is going to help.

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LC Sharkey (they/them)'s avatar

Then those parents are in luck, because there is no "LGBTQ agenda" and there is no evidence to suggest that protection of trans folks in any way increases the likelihood of molestation against children of any gender. If you want to protect children, how about making sure all of them, regardless of their gender (or lack thereof) are respected and cared for, and allowed to express their gender in the manner that they feel is authentic to them.

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Susan Linehan's avatar

Why would a trans girl want to rape another girl any more than a "born" girl would? What prevents a boy in manly-man pants from sneaking into a girls locker room and hiding in a stall? Certainly in a school locker room, any boy donning a skirt is going to be recognized by fellow students and booted. The students know who is truly looking at a trans identity and who is faking.

Paranoia runs deep....

By far the best way for a male to get into a woman's locker room is to own the team or the pageant. Apparently he is then free to just go in and ogle away.

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cupera1's avatar

Then why did Loudoun hush up the rape?

It is not paranoia when it has already happened.

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Susan Linehan's avatar

I haven't found anything but unsupported allegations that this kid was trans. Wearing a skirt does not make you trans: ask any Scotsman. If she was alone in the bathroom he could have entered skirt or not.

Since rape is an expression of power rather than sexual desire, it seems that the could always be exceptions to the general rule that trans women IDENTIFY as women and have no reason to rape other "born" women. Women, of course, can have as much suppressed anger and desire to dominate as men. Check out stories of women's prisons.

Since he was convicted it is hard to see this as "hushed up."

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Teri Simonds's avatar

It was sort of hushed up and the kid was transferred to another school where he assaulted another girl. In this news article, he’s described as “gender fluid”.

https://www.dailysignal.com/2023/02/15/loudoun-county-school-board-votes-hide-report-male-gender-fluid-student-raping-students-parents/

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Susan Linehan's avatar

And this says that that characterization was not confirmed by authorities.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/public-safety/loudoun-schools-sex-assault-allegations/2021/10/13/02d3f144-2c61-11ec-8ef6-3ca8fe943a92_story.html

Or, if you prefer a more conservative source:

https://nypost.com/2021/11/02/teen-convicted-of-sex-assault-doesnt-identify-as-female-despite-skirt/

The Daily Signal is the one labeling the kid "transgender." There is nothing in the grand jury report it links to that suggests that.

Do you honestly think that a sign saying "Girls" without including transgender is going to keep a boy out if he wants to use the relative privacy of a restroom to assault a girl? If so, please send the formula so I can protect my house with a sign saying "No burglars."

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Teri Simonds's avatar

Yes. My not-well-articulated point was that the School Board did try to hush it up, but not because the boy identified other than male. They handled it poorly all the way around.

(Disclosure: I live in Loudoun County and do not have children in the school system.)

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Susan Linehan's avatar

OK, it would not surprise me at all if a school district tried to "hush up" an assault by a "boy wearing a skirt" because of the immediate speculations that this had something to do with trans kids using a bathroom matching their identity. (gender fluid is a much broader category than trans. It includes bi, which keeps the outward forms of born gender but "swings both ways" and asexual, where the individual doesn't identify particularly with EITHER gender in a sexual way. You probably know a lot of the latter--they just don't talk about it. They can even be married, for social, not sexual, reasons.)

A lot of the recent articles were talking about mishandling an assault by a TEACHER (not identified as trans). It sounds like the district was mainly not facing the problem of assaults, period.

I am befuddled by all the "anti trans" sentiment. There are violent people of ALL gender persuasions. But by and large, unless they are activists I think most trans people just keep their heads down and get on with their lives. I can't see that they are hurting anyone. I don't care if one's personal morality doesn't like them--that's an individual right. But LAWS that persecute?

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Teri Simonds's avatar

I don’t understand it, either. People are people. And frankly, I’m more concerned about a White guy (old or not) carrying a gun than I am about someone’s sexual identity.

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Randy Winn's avatar

Most pedos are conservatives.

I'm not saying most conservatives are pedos - they're not - but pretending to be a god-fearing christian is a great cover for the crime. Plus it's all part of the authoritarian mindset.

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cupera1's avatar

The largest group of pedos is public school teachers.

The most comprehensive report about sexual abuse by teachers in public schools, published by the Department of Education in 2004, estimates—on the basis of a 2000 survey, conducted by the American Association of University Women, of 2,065 students in grades eight through 11—that nearly 10 percent of K-12 students have been victims of sexual misconduct by a public school employee. Assuming that figure is accurate, this would translate into an approximately 4.5 million children nationwide suffering sexual misconduct by public school employees, with an estimated 3 million suffering physical sexual abuse—a number, according to the author of the study, Hofstra University professor Charol Shakeshaft, more than 100 times greater than the sexual physical abuse committed by Catholic priests, who, at the time the report was published, were undergoing a reckoning for the crimes within their ranks.

https://www2.ed.gov/rschstat/research/pubs/misconductreview/report.pdf

https://www.khon2.com/hawaii-crime/hawaii-teacher-arrested-for-sharing-child-pornography/

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Randy Winn's avatar

You're making a good argument in favor of age-appropriate sex education, so children will know that they can report abusive adults. Good for you!

To determine which cohort, clerics or teachers, would naturally produce a greater number of child predators in the United States, we would need to consider several factors. However, it's important to note that reliable and up-to-date statistical data specifically comparing child predators among clerics and teachers may not be readily available, as such information can be challenging to quantify accurately due to underreporting and variations in reporting protocols.

Nonetheless, let's assume for the sake of this discussion that the rate of child predators is indeed similar among clerics and teachers. In this case, we can consider a few factors that might influence the potential number of child predators in each cohort:

Total number of individuals: Teachers significantly outnumber clerics in the United States. According to the National Center for Education Statistics, there were approximately 3.7 million full-time-equivalent public school teachers in the 2019-2020 academic year. On the other hand, the number of clerics, such as priests or pastors, is considerably smaller. Therefore, even with a similar rate of child predators, teachers would naturally produce a greater number simply due to the larger pool of individuals.

Access to children: Teachers generally have more direct and prolonged contact with children than clerics. Teachers interact with students on a daily basis in a classroom setting, while clerics may have less frequent contact with children, primarily during religious activities or services. The increased interaction and access to children that teachers have could potentially increase the likelihood of inappropriate behavior or instances of child abuse.

Reporting mechanisms: The reporting mechanisms and protocols for incidents of child abuse or inappropriate behavior can vary between educational institutions and religious organizations. Schools typically have well-defined reporting procedures in place and often have mandatory reporting requirements for suspected abuse. These protocols aim to ensure that incidents are reported promptly and appropriate actions are taken. However, reporting mechanisms within religious organizations may not be as standardized or robust, potentially leading to underreporting of child abuse cases.

Considering these factors, even with a similar rate of child predators, the larger number of teachers and their increased access to children would likely result in a higher overall number of reported cases involving teachers compared to clerics. However, it is important to remember that these conclusions are based on assumptions and generalizations, and actual data may vary. Additionally, efforts to combat child abuse and protect children are crucial in both educational and religious contexts, regardless of the relative numbers involved.

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