“[T]he Constitution protects the right to cross state lines and engage in lawful conduct in other States, including receiving an abortion,” Judge Myron Thompson ruled.
Would Alabama set up roadblocks in order to screen people traveling out-of state, would women be stopped at airports train stations or bus depots and have to show documents relating to their physical status?
The pregnancy police...?
Good gods.
What's with these white guys in Alabama? (And Texas, Florida, Mississippi, Arkansas, Louisiana, Idaho, etc etc)
The right for an Americans to travel is a right that goes really far (distance) and really far (back in time). The State Department grants us permission to travel overseas by issuing things called passports. And aside from participating in war crimes, joining foreign armies, breaking international laws or supporting terrorism, we're free to do pretty much the hell we want overseas, like climb mountains, run marathons, buy drugs, get medical procedures, and live our lives under an honor system to come back home soon.
We have a right to travel anywhere. F-you AG Marshall!
These Taliban men want us shackled at home, where they decide what's "best" for us.
Traveling out of state for an abortion is no different than if you live in a state that does not allow gambling, so you drive to another state to gamble.
Or you live in a dry county that doesn't sell alcohol, so you drive to another county.
You can't have the same conduct be health care in one state and homicide in another. Any more than people could be citizens in one state and property in another. They know this. That's why they're going to insist on imposing their tyranny on all of us, and will, with absolutely zero doubt, do so if they win this election.
Abortion cases touch upon a range of constitutional issues and the original companion case to Roe v. Wade itself involved the right to travel to obtain abortions in Georgia.
Past practice -- such as the crisis pregnancy clinics case that selectively used free speech to determine what type of health licensing laws are appropriate -- is suggestive.
A little concerned about reserving judgement on the "novel" facilitation of out of state conduct. If that gets the eventual SCOTUS seal of approval, which is likely to happen based on recent rulings, what's to stop Alabama from indicting a travel agent from arranging a flight & hotel stay in California for a customer? What kind of stopgaps will the AL government put in place - restricted and monitored online activity, monitored health records and cell phone data codified into state law? This is treading dangerously close to state level tyranny.
We’ve seen that the Right Wing isn’t big on dealing with reality or problem-solving. They love to put “hypotheticals” forward, but they don’t do the research to establish a knowledgeable foundation for their grand schemes.
I never thought so many attorneys could be so ignorant until this year’s parade of Dumbasses in the courts and legislatures. How, indeed, do you come after people who cross state lines? You have to go back to the Pre-civil War days when slave catchers were allowed to cross state lines . . . Well, I wouldn’t put that past these dumbasses . But isn’t that what fascism is predicated upon? Tyranny?
I checked the judge's Wikipedia page. He was young when he was nominated; he is in his 70s now.
The page also links to a past abortion ruling he wrote, including a reference to how both gun rights and abortion rights are controversial but constitutional protections (at the time) that a lower court judge had to apply.
How would companies send their employees to conferences, meetings and other events? Would this law trigger new consequences for the person who caused the pregnancy? Attempted manslaughter for rapists who impregnate? How is the other side of this equation being legislated?
Would Alabama set up roadblocks in order to screen people traveling out-of state, would women be stopped at airports train stations or bus depots and have to show documents relating to their physical status?
The pregnancy police...?
Good gods.
What's with these white guys in Alabama? (And Texas, Florida, Mississippi, Arkansas, Louisiana, Idaho, etc etc)
transvaginal ultrasounds required to cross a border? I wouldn't put it past em.
Like a passport or a view- port or something.
For fucks sake.......
Perfect....
The answer to your question is yes.
They are a mighty creepy group of scumwads
The right for an Americans to travel is a right that goes really far (distance) and really far (back in time). The State Department grants us permission to travel overseas by issuing things called passports. And aside from participating in war crimes, joining foreign armies, breaking international laws or supporting terrorism, we're free to do pretty much the hell we want overseas, like climb mountains, run marathons, buy drugs, get medical procedures, and live our lives under an honor system to come back home soon.
We have a right to travel anywhere. F-you AG Marshall!
These Taliban men want us shackled at home, where they decide what's "best" for us.
Traveling out of state for an abortion is no different than if you live in a state that does not allow gambling, so you drive to another state to gamble.
Or you live in a dry county that doesn't sell alcohol, so you drive to another county.
Hey how’d you know I’m in TexBanistan? 😳
Im in Tenness-stan. Lol
Other than that gambling or alcohol generally do not constitute vital health care, yes.
Alabama is Eleventh Circuit. This ruling might actually have a chance to survive.
Finally a judge who knows the constitution.
You can't have the same conduct be health care in one state and homicide in another. Any more than people could be citizens in one state and property in another. They know this. That's why they're going to insist on imposing their tyranny on all of us, and will, with absolutely zero doubt, do so if they win this election.
Abortion cases touch upon a range of constitutional issues and the original companion case to Roe v. Wade itself involved the right to travel to obtain abortions in Georgia.
Typo: obverbreadth
In other words this SCOTUS could be looking to overturn a bunch of other constitutional rights, like travel and speech, too.
Past practice -- such as the crisis pregnancy clinics case that selectively used free speech to determine what type of health licensing laws are appropriate -- is suggestive.
A little concerned about reserving judgement on the "novel" facilitation of out of state conduct. If that gets the eventual SCOTUS seal of approval, which is likely to happen based on recent rulings, what's to stop Alabama from indicting a travel agent from arranging a flight & hotel stay in California for a customer? What kind of stopgaps will the AL government put in place - restricted and monitored online activity, monitored health records and cell phone data codified into state law? This is treading dangerously close to state level tyranny.
We’ve seen that the Right Wing isn’t big on dealing with reality or problem-solving. They love to put “hypotheticals” forward, but they don’t do the research to establish a knowledgeable foundation for their grand schemes.
I never thought so many attorneys could be so ignorant until this year’s parade of Dumbasses in the courts and legislatures. How, indeed, do you come after people who cross state lines? You have to go back to the Pre-civil War days when slave catchers were allowed to cross state lines . . . Well, I wouldn’t put that past these dumbasses . But isn’t that what fascism is predicated upon? Tyranny?
I checked the judge's Wikipedia page. He was young when he was nominated; he is in his 70s now.
The page also links to a past abortion ruling he wrote, including a reference to how both gun rights and abortion rights are controversial but constitutional protections (at the time) that a lower court judge had to apply.
How would companies send their employees to conferences, meetings and other events? Would this law trigger new consequences for the person who caused the pregnancy? Attempted manslaughter for rapists who impregnate? How is the other side of this equation being legislated?