Update: The Fourth Circuit’s Sunday order largely leaves in place Friday's injunction. However, Virginia earlier suggested they’d go to SCOTUS next if needed.
This, of course, completely ignores the fact that non-citizen voting happens at a statistically insignificant rate. Certainly not enough to justify the removal of actual citizens from the voting rolls.
To be sure. My point was just that, legally speaking, any illegal acts of individuals that they *could* prove —even if they could do so — would not be an equivalent harm to the government acting to revoke people’s legal rights.
Exactly. Even the white supremacist organization the Heritage Foundation's own reaserach and data proves out that illegal voting is not a thing. As well as Brennan Center and the two outside firms tRump hired after the 2020 election.
It's like .000001%.....and none of it deliberately illegal. Some people don't update their records and go to their previous polling location (actual US citizens) and new citizens that have missed the sworn in step. Totally nothing nefarious. This illegal voting bullshit is part of their big nazi lie.
It's one of the phantom "problems" that Republicans are so enamored with. Like hordes of armed immigrants flooding across the I-10, or children going to school as boys and coming home as girls, complete with bottom surgery performed in the school cafeteria.
No one should ever again make the mistake of referring to Glenn Youngkin as a “moderate”. Thank you for your detailed reporting on their outrageous testimony that it’s A-okay for the state of Virginia to deny legal citizens of their voting rights.
I hate my governor, Glenn Youngkin, so very very much. I'm still angry that he basically endorsed Trump's plan to deploy the National Guard against Democrats. By his logic, we should just throw out a whole election if a single noncitizen votes. Wouldn't that be convenient for him and Trump?
I hate him as much as you do, maybe even more if that's possible. (I'm in Fairfax County.) To this day it boggles my mind that so many people allowed themselves to be hoodwinked and fall for his red vest bullshit.
Hey neighbor! At least we killed his dumbass stadium dreams. Over a billion dollars to move a stadium 10 miles that no one in the area wants there? 'Fiscal conservatism' is a bad joke!
(Leonsis is still whining about that. But I and nearly all of my friends -- I know only two people who actually liked the idea -- were absolutely ecstatic that it went nowhere.)
Bahaha, what an offensive waste of money! Also, their estimate assumed the average person would want to spend over 700$ on a hotel room. It was just The Most absurd.
I am in VA, and here in the northern regions when Youngkin came around during the campaign he spoke as if he was quite moderate and when he went to the western regions he became much more rabid. I wondered at the strange fact that people here seemed soothed by his bullshit chameleon act. If someone tells your neighbor they want to poison your lawn and run over your pet but is all smiles to you, you don't decide they were lying to your neighbor, you decide they are liars and scary and need to be kept far away.
It was really a problem of extremely, bafflingly unequal effort in the campaigns. The Democrat candidate was McAuliff and he has been Governor before so I think he just assumed he's be able to stroll right into the position as if politics of yesteryear where the incumbent had a huge advantage still held true. We heard about Youngkin almost every day and got at least a dozen cards in the mail pushing for him, and I don't think we got a single one for McAuliff nor did one hear about him holding rallies. I'm sure he did, but how many and where? Certainly I know I barely knew who was running against Youngkin and only knew I'd never vote for him (aside from the dread R) because I can't abide a liar and his chameleon ways.
McAuliffe was a terrible candidate and I was super irritated that he decided to run. I think you're right that he assumed he could waltz in on past accomplishments. But his campaign seemed halfhearted and then he really blew it when he made that stupid comment about parents and schools, which Trumpkin was quick to jump all over and use to his advantage.
That said though, chameleon is right. And I can't help thinking that it's all reminiscent of the meme of the people who didn't think the leopards would eat their face.
I super miss Ralph Northam. If Democrats hadn't loosened a bunch of the rigid alcohol regulations, it would have devasted the local economy up here and I probably wouldn't have made it through the pandemic.
He couldn't even win a normal primary. If I remember correctly, they moved it to a single-location college in the woods or something to make sure the nominee wasn't Amanda Chase the Gun-Toting Lunatic.
Gosh. Got me there. I don't remember how Youngkin lurched into our view, but I wonder if the college might have been the conservative Christian one in Purcellville that gave us Madison Cauthorn? It would figure...
Fact checking myself- I guess there did end up being multiple locations, but that must have happened during one of the many, many rule changes and reversals 😅
That entire debacle was basically MADE UP by Republican staffers pretending to be regular parents in Loudoun County (where I live). He only won by manufacturing controversy.
Yep, just like the manufactured cases designed to go to all the way to SCOTUS.
Like Alexander Deanda in Texas being represented by Jonathan Mitchell. I swear they have pastors ask their congregations on Sundays.....just hoping to find some bullshit case to bring forward.
As far as I can tell, the only way a noncitizen illegal vote cancels a legal vote is if they vote for opposing candidates. The implication, then, is that they are assuming noncitizens will vote against their preferred candidate (presumably a republican as well). That, to me, is what lays bare the end goal: to cancel votes which they assume won’t be in their party’s favor.
Republicans and their billionaire donors are showing their true colors: they do not want eligible Democratic voters to vote. This is why the Republican Party used Bush v Gore to disenfranchise thousands of legal voters in Florida.
It's become increasingly apparent that US billionaires want to be oligarchs in a system that mirrors Russia. Why else would these folks donate millions in support of the eradication of US democracy and the continued erosion of our constitution? Money and power. The answer is unlimited money and power.
My god! I was writing a lengthy comment regarding the fears we elderly are experiencing but, with the ridicule of the greatest President in my memory, consideration of the old folks is hardly mentioned now. We're afraid. I picture us being like the forgotten Holocaust survivors in Russia.
I'm 78 but still possess a working brain. I'm a Vietnam Veteran who, at the time of honorable discharge after 3 years, I had a Secret Clearance, and a final rank of Specialist E-5, equal to Sergeant.
I despise Donald Trump's thoughts about members of the military personnel. I do know that aside from his own fake get out of the service free, he told each of his children that if any one of them joined the military he would disown them. That explains the rotten personality traits of his sons.
Beyond my service record, I managed to hide the fact that I'm gay hidden from the ultra bigoted lawmakers in our government, I married a woman. Being honest would have destroyed my future. Turns out, after working to keeping America's capitalism running in high gear, along csme a monster to destroy my retirement along with millions of other old blisters' retirements.
At this point my health is at an all time low, I can barely function even to the point that I have to force myself just to do the dishes. I'm so angry st what Donald is doing to the nation and the world that I spend hours every day ranting against Trump along with other wonderful fighters on SubStack. In fact I've been ranting against him since long before he ran the first time.
Here I was so happy when the good President Obama came along and set my people free!, Now the criminal with flesh the color of a prison suit wants to put the LGBTQ COMMUNITY into concentration camps. The man who admitted gleefully to groping women without their permission and that they also loved to have him grab their pussies!
I was fortunate enough not to have to kill strangers in Vietnam. Having studied the Words of Jesus secretly away from the hypocrites in the various flavors of Christianity in the buildings they should have remained inside. I really had issues with killing amyone.
I was fortunate to have so many wonderful friends in the COMMUNITY, all but less than 10 who died of AIDS. I also had many hetero friends in my lifetime. Now I'm picturing the beautiful community where I live in Hillcrest, San Diego, CA, being gutted by Trump's demon hate groups private army and, if the Army I was in obey the Criminal at large, join with the Proud Boys et al, in the gutting.
With our Democracy so horribly threatened by Him, claiming to be the Second Coming, why in the hell hasn't he been put in Solitary Confinement for life long ago?
Sorry to bend your eyes like this. I just don't know what to do except tremble with anger and fear over the unforgivable behavior of a lunatic with maniacal tendencies.
Ah, yes … Virginia’s Glenn Youngkin—the “reasonable” face of MAGA! Time to re-institute another law requiring applying voters to guess the number of jellybeans.
They just NEVER give up. This was only big news on right-wing media, as usual “left-wing Marxist, Communist extremists knew it would get knocked down as Alabama did. Youngkin is full of himself
The illogical thing about the statement "if a noncitizen votes, it will cancel out a legal vote, so that is a harm as well" is that it assumes that the legal citizen is voting for 45 and the noncitizen is voting for Harris. If they both vote for the same candidate it does not cancel out the legal vote.
In addition, this is in eastern Virginia which is far more blue than western more rural VA and thus the percentages are likely skewed toward the removal of more blue votes than red ones. Also, with very little evidence that enough illegal votes have ever been cast to have affected any election, it is very hard to believe they have found this many illegal voters.
I certainly hope someone is looking at and presents information on how many of those "illegal" voters were registered as Democrats. If the balance is not even (and it's quite doubtful it is) then the motive of the purge is made (even) clearer. Certainly, the names on the purge list should be supplied to those who cure votes to attempt a check on the voters actual status.
Verifying party registration is not simple in Virginia, because voter registration doesn't require the applicant to state a party affiliation. A party preference can be deduced from which primary contests a voter cast a ballot in -- and I suppose that some voter registrants do include party affiliation somewhere on their application, but my guess is that most do not. Also, sussing out "illegal" registrants would require finding and verifying that primary-ballot history (indicating that they'd voted at least once before) -- which would miss all the first-time applicants. I sure hope the good guys in this case are ready to use these facts in swatting down this serious attempt at voter suppression!
Not only is designating a party not required, it's not even part of the application at all. Registration rolls don't include that information either. The only time it even comes up is if there are primaries, when you have to choose one or the other. And even knowing who chose which isn't reliable, because crossover voting isn't uncommon. I voted in a couple of Republican primaries decades back, and I knew others who did the same. But assuming I was a Republican because of that would have been a mistake.
Adding: If that info is on the application, then that is a major change since the days when I registered.
Good point about crossover voting in primaries! (But now I'm back to being confused about what exactly appears on registration forms re: party preference. I'm pretty sure actually registering as a party member isn't actually a thing in Va., though you're right that primary voting requires asking for the ballot of the party whose contest you want to cast a vote in.
Registering as a party member definitely is not a thing. That at least hasn't changed. I registered here so long ago I don't even recall where I did it. I *think* it was at DMV at the same time I was replacing my New York license after I moved to Virginia, but it was a completely separate form. I remember being really surprised that it was a nonpartisan registration, since New York does it by party.
Ah, but I had to trek through the dawn redwoods and past a few dinosaurs to register. I'd have to check the records to see how far back they show my vote record, but hopefully it's on there... in stone.
I did check to see that they got my ballot (permanent absentee) and they acknowledge they have. It's unnerving to think one isn't even safe after the 90 day limit, but it's good to remind everyone to keep checking. Apparently, some folks don't find out they are no longer on the rolls until they show up at the polls.
I've been voting here way longer than the current record shows. I registered in 1978. IIRC the records go back only to the 1990s, but I could definitely be misremembering, too.
I'm also on the permanent absentee ballot list. I dropped mine off 10/17, the first day locations expanded, and when I checked again last night it showed as received.
Do you remember if you had to list your party affiliation? I know you can't vote in both primaries and I never tried, but how do they manage that I wonder? I probably registered that early originally too... right out of high school. I don't remember the act of registering but I remember the standing joke about our registrations cancelling each other out... and from other things I did think that one's registration showed party. So: Maybe it does, maybe it doesn't. Maybe some do or none do. I clearly would prefer none did, but then how would they gerrymander? Mine shows received, too. I will be glad (I hope I will be) when this election is over!
I registered to vote in 2011 at the county courthouse, not via motor voter/DMV signup. I wonder if the courthouse application is more detailed than the license-renewal top-of-the-page voting info?
I don't know if there's been any change since I last re-registered to vote in 2011, when I moved from one Va. county to another. Thanks for mentioning you had indeed indicated a party preference when you registered to vote -- I only vaguely recalled there being an option (but not a requirement) to do so. ADDING: I registered to vote in 2011 at the county courthouse, not via motor voter/DMV signup.
Is it too much to hope that if it does wind up at the Supreme Court they will do the right thing since it's obviously a full-blown violation of the 90-day rule?
Simply NOPE. Their argument is BS. Noncitizens just don't vote. Vanishingly rare while cancellation of 1600 votes really does harm the interests of citizens.
Chris; It would appear that this may be the last time I might appeal to you in writing because tomorrow, Sunday 10.27.24, you close tabs to those who can't or won't pay to comment. I am of the former camp; I am unable to pay to comment - financial hardship is all I'm willing to state publicly. An alternative ( short term) seems to be provided for one to download the substack app, which is not an option for me as I access substack via PC. Anyway:
I think you could do the country a solid favor by breaking down why tfg and minions have chosen and insist that immigration is worthy or not to be a valid primary campaign issue. Merely dismissing it by offering the fact that tfg and minions in congress blew the opportunity to address it most recently, doesn't seem like enough to rationally allay the bellows fanning those flames. I feel that folks with the credentials (legal) and rare abilities to explain the legalese to we of the lay public, would be of the highest public service. Nor is it sufficient to meekly offer that it's too complicated (although it does seem to be). Is it that immigration crosses over into multiple areas of law or, has it been overly complicated because in the past, American business's and the Chamber of Commerce crowd provided the lion's share of leadership, lobby, and money in the past efforts to modernize immigration - albeit for their own ends. I say, drag it all out in the light of day's cleansing sunshine. Data exists; current and historical. It needs revealed and broken down in plain english. For instance, there are these:
I frankly don't care if these facts imply that only the gop can affectively threaten and impose the power of boycotts, and that dems can not or will not. I want politics to make some sense again Chris.
Thanks for all your efforts in the past; they were noticed and deeply appreciated.
The only posts that limit commenting to paid subscribers are posts that have paid-only content. (That is a limit of Substack’s functionality, not my choice.) The vast majority of the posts have comments open to all — and will continue to do so.
Please forgive that I may have *misunderstood that particular aspect Chris. I feel like my main overall message is a valid consideration. Thx Chris; You rock !
This, of course, completely ignores the fact that non-citizen voting happens at a statistically insignificant rate. Certainly not enough to justify the removal of actual citizens from the voting rolls.
To be sure. My point was just that, legally speaking, any illegal acts of individuals that they *could* prove —even if they could do so — would not be an equivalent harm to the government acting to revoke people’s legal rights.
Absolutely. Talk about throwing out the baby with the bathwater.
That's their intent, for sure
Exactly. Even the white supremacist organization the Heritage Foundation's own reaserach and data proves out that illegal voting is not a thing. As well as Brennan Center and the two outside firms tRump hired after the 2020 election.
It's like .000001%.....and none of it deliberately illegal. Some people don't update their records and go to their previous polling location (actual US citizens) and new citizens that have missed the sworn in step. Totally nothing nefarious. This illegal voting bullshit is part of their big nazi lie.
It's one of the phantom "problems" that Republicans are so enamored with. Like hordes of armed immigrants flooding across the I-10, or children going to school as boys and coming home as girls, complete with bottom surgery performed in the school cafeteria.
Yes.
The new and improved 'satanic panic'.....
Satanic McCarthyism at this point. Flooding the zone with shit.
No one should ever again make the mistake of referring to Glenn Youngkin as a “moderate”. Thank you for your detailed reporting on their outrageous testimony that it’s A-okay for the state of Virginia to deny legal citizens of their voting rights.
I know John Roberts said it's great these days, but we need an updated Voting Rights Act.
Voting is on the ballot.
I hate my governor, Glenn Youngkin, so very very much. I'm still angry that he basically endorsed Trump's plan to deploy the National Guard against Democrats. By his logic, we should just throw out a whole election if a single noncitizen votes. Wouldn't that be convenient for him and Trump?
I hate him as much as you do, maybe even more if that's possible. (I'm in Fairfax County.) To this day it boggles my mind that so many people allowed themselves to be hoodwinked and fall for his red vest bullshit.
Hey neighbor! At least we killed his dumbass stadium dreams. Over a billion dollars to move a stadium 10 miles that no one in the area wants there? 'Fiscal conservatism' is a bad joke!
But it was only 3.5 miles! 😜
(Leonsis is still whining about that. But I and nearly all of my friends -- I know only two people who actually liked the idea -- were absolutely ecstatic that it went nowhere.)
Bahaha, what an offensive waste of money! Also, their estimate assumed the average person would want to spend over 700$ on a hotel room. It was just The Most absurd.
And the best part? The calculations to arrive at that $700 included Wizards postseason games. Like that's going to happen anytime soon LOLOL
I am in VA, and here in the northern regions when Youngkin came around during the campaign he spoke as if he was quite moderate and when he went to the western regions he became much more rabid. I wondered at the strange fact that people here seemed soothed by his bullshit chameleon act. If someone tells your neighbor they want to poison your lawn and run over your pet but is all smiles to you, you don't decide they were lying to your neighbor, you decide they are liars and scary and need to be kept far away.
It was really a problem of extremely, bafflingly unequal effort in the campaigns. The Democrat candidate was McAuliff and he has been Governor before so I think he just assumed he's be able to stroll right into the position as if politics of yesteryear where the incumbent had a huge advantage still held true. We heard about Youngkin almost every day and got at least a dozen cards in the mail pushing for him, and I don't think we got a single one for McAuliff nor did one hear about him holding rallies. I'm sure he did, but how many and where? Certainly I know I barely knew who was running against Youngkin and only knew I'd never vote for him (aside from the dread R) because I can't abide a liar and his chameleon ways.
McAuliffe was a terrible candidate and I was super irritated that he decided to run. I think you're right that he assumed he could waltz in on past accomplishments. But his campaign seemed halfhearted and then he really blew it when he made that stupid comment about parents and schools, which Trumpkin was quick to jump all over and use to his advantage.
That said though, chameleon is right. And I can't help thinking that it's all reminiscent of the meme of the people who didn't think the leopards would eat their face.
I super miss Ralph Northam. If Democrats hadn't loosened a bunch of the rigid alcohol regulations, it would have devasted the local economy up here and I probably wouldn't have made it through the pandemic.
I miss him too. He was such a good governor.
He couldn't even win a normal primary. If I remember correctly, they moved it to a single-location college in the woods or something to make sure the nominee wasn't Amanda Chase the Gun-Toting Lunatic.
Gosh. Got me there. I don't remember how Youngkin lurched into our view, but I wonder if the college might have been the conservative Christian one in Purcellville that gave us Madison Cauthorn? It would figure...
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2021_Virginia_gubernatorial_election
If you scroll down to the "Republican convention" tab, it's a really wild story that went almost completely under the radar!
Under mine, for sure. Great bouncing badminton that is crazy.
Fact checking myself- I guess there did end up being multiple locations, but that must have happened during one of the many, many rule changes and reversals 😅
And banning the teaching of CRT in schools......and setting up a hotline to call if a teacher was teaching it.
That entire debacle was basically MADE UP by Republican staffers pretending to be regular parents in Loudoun County (where I live). He only won by manufacturing controversy.
Yep, just like the manufactured cases designed to go to all the way to SCOTUS.
Like Alexander Deanda in Texas being represented by Jonathan Mitchell. I swear they have pastors ask their congregations on Sundays.....just hoping to find some bullshit case to bring forward.
I maintain the Federalist Society is the closest thing we have to a 'deep state'.
As far as I can tell, the only way a noncitizen illegal vote cancels a legal vote is if they vote for opposing candidates. The implication, then, is that they are assuming noncitizens will vote against their preferred candidate (presumably a republican as well). That, to me, is what lays bare the end goal: to cancel votes which they assume won’t be in their party’s favor.
Thank you so much for the alert Chris, and the breakdown. Much gratitude...
Republicans and their billionaire donors are showing their true colors: they do not want eligible Democratic voters to vote. This is why the Republican Party used Bush v Gore to disenfranchise thousands of legal voters in Florida.
It's become increasingly apparent that US billionaires want to be oligarchs in a system that mirrors Russia. Why else would these folks donate millions in support of the eradication of US democracy and the continued erosion of our constitution? Money and power. The answer is unlimited money and power.
It makes me so happy to know that some folks like you can see through the haze created. The majority, the loud and the silent must seize this moment.
My god! I was writing a lengthy comment regarding the fears we elderly are experiencing but, with the ridicule of the greatest President in my memory, consideration of the old folks is hardly mentioned now. We're afraid. I picture us being like the forgotten Holocaust survivors in Russia.
I'm 78 but still possess a working brain. I'm a Vietnam Veteran who, at the time of honorable discharge after 3 years, I had a Secret Clearance, and a final rank of Specialist E-5, equal to Sergeant.
I despise Donald Trump's thoughts about members of the military personnel. I do know that aside from his own fake get out of the service free, he told each of his children that if any one of them joined the military he would disown them. That explains the rotten personality traits of his sons.
Beyond my service record, I managed to hide the fact that I'm gay hidden from the ultra bigoted lawmakers in our government, I married a woman. Being honest would have destroyed my future. Turns out, after working to keeping America's capitalism running in high gear, along csme a monster to destroy my retirement along with millions of other old blisters' retirements.
At this point my health is at an all time low, I can barely function even to the point that I have to force myself just to do the dishes. I'm so angry st what Donald is doing to the nation and the world that I spend hours every day ranting against Trump along with other wonderful fighters on SubStack. In fact I've been ranting against him since long before he ran the first time.
Here I was so happy when the good President Obama came along and set my people free!, Now the criminal with flesh the color of a prison suit wants to put the LGBTQ COMMUNITY into concentration camps. The man who admitted gleefully to groping women without their permission and that they also loved to have him grab their pussies!
I was fortunate enough not to have to kill strangers in Vietnam. Having studied the Words of Jesus secretly away from the hypocrites in the various flavors of Christianity in the buildings they should have remained inside. I really had issues with killing amyone.
I was fortunate to have so many wonderful friends in the COMMUNITY, all but less than 10 who died of AIDS. I also had many hetero friends in my lifetime. Now I'm picturing the beautiful community where I live in Hillcrest, San Diego, CA, being gutted by Trump's demon hate groups private army and, if the Army I was in obey the Criminal at large, join with the Proud Boys et al, in the gutting.
With our Democracy so horribly threatened by Him, claiming to be the Second Coming, why in the hell hasn't he been put in Solitary Confinement for life long ago?
Sorry to bend your eyes like this. I just don't know what to do except tremble with anger and fear over the unforgivable behavior of a lunatic with maniacal tendencies.
Thank you for reading.
Richard La France
Ah, yes … Virginia’s Glenn Youngkin—the “reasonable” face of MAGA! Time to re-institute another law requiring applying voters to guess the number of jellybeans.
They just NEVER give up. This was only big news on right-wing media, as usual “left-wing Marxist, Communist extremists knew it would get knocked down as Alabama did. Youngkin is full of himself
The illogical thing about the statement "if a noncitizen votes, it will cancel out a legal vote, so that is a harm as well" is that it assumes that the legal citizen is voting for 45 and the noncitizen is voting for Harris. If they both vote for the same candidate it does not cancel out the legal vote.
In addition, this is in eastern Virginia which is far more blue than western more rural VA and thus the percentages are likely skewed toward the removal of more blue votes than red ones. Also, with very little evidence that enough illegal votes have ever been cast to have affected any election, it is very hard to believe they have found this many illegal voters.
I certainly hope someone is looking at and presents information on how many of those "illegal" voters were registered as Democrats. If the balance is not even (and it's quite doubtful it is) then the motive of the purge is made (even) clearer. Certainly, the names on the purge list should be supplied to those who cure votes to attempt a check on the voters actual status.
Verifying party registration is not simple in Virginia, because voter registration doesn't require the applicant to state a party affiliation. A party preference can be deduced from which primary contests a voter cast a ballot in -- and I suppose that some voter registrants do include party affiliation somewhere on their application, but my guess is that most do not. Also, sussing out "illegal" registrants would require finding and verifying that primary-ballot history (indicating that they'd voted at least once before) -- which would miss all the first-time applicants. I sure hope the good guys in this case are ready to use these facts in swatting down this serious attempt at voter suppression!
Not only is designating a party not required, it's not even part of the application at all. Registration rolls don't include that information either. The only time it even comes up is if there are primaries, when you have to choose one or the other. And even knowing who chose which isn't reliable, because crossover voting isn't uncommon. I voted in a couple of Republican primaries decades back, and I knew others who did the same. But assuming I was a Republican because of that would have been a mistake.
Adding: If that info is on the application, then that is a major change since the days when I registered.
Good point about crossover voting in primaries! (But now I'm back to being confused about what exactly appears on registration forms re: party preference. I'm pretty sure actually registering as a party member isn't actually a thing in Va., though you're right that primary voting requires asking for the ballot of the party whose contest you want to cast a vote in.
Registering as a party member definitely is not a thing. That at least hasn't changed. I registered here so long ago I don't even recall where I did it. I *think* it was at DMV at the same time I was replacing my New York license after I moved to Virginia, but it was a completely separate form. I remember being really surprised that it was a nonpartisan registration, since New York does it by party.
Has that changed? I do know I indicated mine, and that others in my family did because there was some cancelling out happening back then...
You did? It wasn't on the motor voter form I saw last week when I renewed my drivers license. (The info for voting is at the top of the page.)
Ah, but I had to trek through the dawn redwoods and past a few dinosaurs to register. I'd have to check the records to see how far back they show my vote record, but hopefully it's on there... in stone.
I did check to see that they got my ballot (permanent absentee) and they acknowledge they have. It's unnerving to think one isn't even safe after the 90 day limit, but it's good to remind everyone to keep checking. Apparently, some folks don't find out they are no longer on the rolls until they show up at the polls.
I've been voting here way longer than the current record shows. I registered in 1978. IIRC the records go back only to the 1990s, but I could definitely be misremembering, too.
I'm also on the permanent absentee ballot list. I dropped mine off 10/17, the first day locations expanded, and when I checked again last night it showed as received.
Do you remember if you had to list your party affiliation? I know you can't vote in both primaries and I never tried, but how do they manage that I wonder? I probably registered that early originally too... right out of high school. I don't remember the act of registering but I remember the standing joke about our registrations cancelling each other out... and from other things I did think that one's registration showed party. So: Maybe it does, maybe it doesn't. Maybe some do or none do. I clearly would prefer none did, but then how would they gerrymander? Mine shows received, too. I will be glad (I hope I will be) when this election is over!
I registered to vote in 2011 at the county courthouse, not via motor voter/DMV signup. I wonder if the courthouse application is more detailed than the license-renewal top-of-the-page voting info?
I don't know if there's been any change since I last re-registered to vote in 2011, when I moved from one Va. county to another. Thanks for mentioning you had indeed indicated a party preference when you registered to vote -- I only vaguely recalled there being an option (but not a requirement) to do so. ADDING: I registered to vote in 2011 at the county courthouse, not via motor voter/DMV signup.
Is it too much to hope that if it does wind up at the Supreme Court they will do the right thing since it's obviously a full-blown violation of the 90-day rule?
The GQP knows it can't win without cheating.
Simply NOPE. Their argument is BS. Noncitizens just don't vote. Vanishingly rare while cancellation of 1600 votes really does harm the interests of citizens.
I wonder how many rejected registrations/ballots actually get cured. Are provisional ballots ever outcome determinative?
Chris; It would appear that this may be the last time I might appeal to you in writing because tomorrow, Sunday 10.27.24, you close tabs to those who can't or won't pay to comment. I am of the former camp; I am unable to pay to comment - financial hardship is all I'm willing to state publicly. An alternative ( short term) seems to be provided for one to download the substack app, which is not an option for me as I access substack via PC. Anyway:
I think you could do the country a solid favor by breaking down why tfg and minions have chosen and insist that immigration is worthy or not to be a valid primary campaign issue. Merely dismissing it by offering the fact that tfg and minions in congress blew the opportunity to address it most recently, doesn't seem like enough to rationally allay the bellows fanning those flames. I feel that folks with the credentials (legal) and rare abilities to explain the legalese to we of the lay public, would be of the highest public service. Nor is it sufficient to meekly offer that it's too complicated (although it does seem to be). Is it that immigration crosses over into multiple areas of law or, has it been overly complicated because in the past, American business's and the Chamber of Commerce crowd provided the lion's share of leadership, lobby, and money in the past efforts to modernize immigration - albeit for their own ends. I say, drag it all out in the light of day's cleansing sunshine. Data exists; current and historical. It needs revealed and broken down in plain english. For instance, there are these:
https://www.propublica.org/article/business-lobby-immigration-reform-trump
https://www.reaganlibrary.gov/archives/speech/statement-signing-immigration-reform-and-control-act-1986
And some historical and recent threats that the Chamber of Commerce crowd 'suggest' that they fear > https://www.nytimes.com/article/bud-light-boycott.html
and the right wing's painful yet effective boycotts like the Bud-Lite and Natalie Maine (Dixie Chicks)
> https://www.today.com/popculture/dixie-chicks-controversy-changed-their-careers-17-years-ago-t175454
I frankly don't care if these facts imply that only the gop can affectively threaten and impose the power of boycotts, and that dems can not or will not. I want politics to make some sense again Chris.
Thanks for all your efforts in the past; they were noticed and deeply appreciated.
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Please forgive that I may have *misunderstood that particular aspect Chris. I feel like my main overall message is a valid consideration. Thx Chris; You rock !
Meanwhile, https://open.substack.com/pub/erininthemorn/p/odessa-tx-just-put-10000-bounties?r=31zus6