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Bill Kissinger's avatar

Prison retaliation by Wardens/assistant wardens in legal matters is a REAL thing. And to claim that it's not is simply delusional. I won two major lawsuits while I was in Angola (Louisiana State Prison) and was severely retaliated against both times: beaten, gassed, put in the dungeon (solitary), lost my property and transferred to another facility. I can very easily understand that this is not just someoe manipulating the outcome of a case or being dramatic And, what she claims Teague said to her is probably very real.

David J. Sharp's avatar

There have always been bullies … but a bully as president gives permission to blatantly misbehave.

Peter Nicoll's avatar

I couldn’t read this straight through - it was too horrifying. Before Bush’s unjustified war on Iraq, and the ensuing ‘red-hunt’ in the U.S., I never appreciated how important law, lawyers and competent, unbiased judges are to our freedom and everyday lives.

And now, we are in a period when they are our only bulwark against the fascist bent of DJT.

Emper's avatar

this woman was in a Tucson federal prison,

and now is in north carolina? i have read her story before: i am confused. why is she in north Carolina? my understanding is she will be released in 2026 after serving 21 years.

Chris Geidner's avatar

People are moved in the system for various reasons. Her move — or, rather, earlier time in Tucson — is referenced in Moreno’s declaration, but I don’t know the circumstances of the move.

Emper's avatar

she has an enviable history of winning cases on her own. i wish her well with this next piece of bad luck she faces. she has survived more than people should have to.

Cassidy Daub's avatar

Stuff like this is why prison terrifies me as a trans woman. The stories ive heard are horrific, and I would not have the will power to survive it

BasicallyGir's avatar

It's a fundamental failing of the social contract. We, as citizens, consent to going to jail if we break the law. But we don't consent to harassment (illegal), sexual harassment(illegal), assault (illegal), or sexual assault (also illegal).

We also don't consent to some concept that prison wardens can ignore judges (illegal).

Without humane treatment in prison, there can't even really be consent, because the threat of illegal & harmful activity in prison is coercion.

It's like if you were mugged at gunpoint, did you really consent to handing over your purse?

Cassidy Daub's avatar

I think you fail to see that there was no social contract, or if there was it has been morally corrupt from the start. This isn't a new issue, and not all laws are just. On top of that, prisons are about the worst way that we as a society could deal with these issues. Restorative justice will always be more affective than punitive justice. I will never consent to jail, in a fair society or not. We live in a society where teenagers can be sent to prison for longer than they have lived for as little as some marijuana. There was never a social contract to break, they have always been horrible

BasicallyGir's avatar

While I agree with the sentiment, I don't think undermining the philosophy of the social contract benefits the common person

Shelley Powers's avatar

Contempt? They should be in their own prison, on the other side of the cell doors.

Deana Holmes's avatar

There is a recently published book by Eric King called A Clean Hell about his time in the federal system. He talks a lot about abuse by staff. He also talks about how he was prosecuted for assaulting a prison lieutenant after the lieutenant assaulted him first. He was looking at 20 more years. His case is notable for two reasons: 1) He took the stand in his own defense (usually a very bad idea) and 2) the jury found him not guilty. Which if you're familiar with the federal system, prosecutors only like to bring slam dunk cases. It'ss a hard book to read, but very informative and eye opening. He was held in ADX Florence for a few years. Tl;dr, based on Eric King's book, I believe this guy.

Nicola A's avatar

I'll never understand what drives people to be so fucking bigoted and cruel.

Susan Linehan's avatar

Is there any reason for the new policy re: trans prisoners other than trump's Executive Order about what a "man" and "woman" are? Is this something that needs to go through the APA? This policy strikes me as involving "cruel and unusual punishment" and simply denying that trans people exist doesn't seem to mitigate that.

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Dido Twite's avatar

Would you please share the exact sentence you found “so funny”? And please point to where it describes either the prisoner’s or the guards’ political affiliation.

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BasicallyGir's avatar

He also subscribes to known transphobe and liar, Jesse Signal