Lower courts tossed out Joseph Clifton Smith's death sentence after a finding him to be intellectually disabled. That decision stands, but SCOTUS refused to stop two other execution efforts.
Thomas & Alito - the Sclerotic Duo - what propels them? Like Trump, those two seems dissatisfied with their elite life (propped up by Leo’s Billionaire Boyz Fund) and want nothing but the worst for the rest of us. Sour peeled grapes?
We are in the darkest of dark ages again. What does the court know about IQ? Emotional Intelligence, Autism, etc.? The dissenting judges, Alioto especially, are low on so many other human and humane qualities. I am disappointed and angry. Are we back to Eugenics?
I happen to own a lovely piece of sculpture made by someone considered low IQ. He's made money and his family is quite wealthy as a result of his artistic talent. Could he follow a legal argument? Doubtful. Can he make high priced utilitarian stunning ceramics. Yes!
The death penalty is already the government’s most terrifying power. If the courts cannot draw a hard line against executing intellectually disabled defendants, then the system has become a bloodless procedure instead of justice. Smith spent nearly three decades on death row. Lower courts reviewed the record and found intellectual disability. That should end it. Roberts should know better. History will not grade this kindly.
The Georgia Supreme Court ruled in the late 1980s that the Cruel & Unusual Clause of the Georgia Constitution bars the execution of mentally retarded defendants. Fleming v Zant.
We should have abolished the death penalty a long time ago.
As a physician, I put in IVs and central lines regularly. These are stressful experiences for patients, but can be done in ways to minimize distress. Central lines, are particularly stressful and uncomfortable. The fact that they tried and failed would have been torture. I can only imagine how many attempts were made on this man’s body in order for them to give up. Before canceling a surgery, we would make many attempts (with the patient’s consent).
The codes of ethics for nurses, EMTs, and doctors proscribe participation in executions. It’s a disgrace that states can find people to fill these rolls.
"Botched" means a task, procedure, or attempt has been ruined, spoiled, or poorly executed due to incompetence, carelessness, or clumsiness. It is synonymous with words like bungled, mishandled, or screwed up.
You have no basis for charging Tennessee officials with misfeasance. The most common reason for DIVA (difficult intravenous access) relates to the physical condition of the subject. Viewed in isolation, your accusations against Tennessee officials would merely demonstrate that you are profoundly ignorant. Your contention that the description offered by Carruthers' ACLU attorney--that Tennessee "tortured" Carruthers--is "likely more accurate" than the just-the-facts-m'am account outlined by the state Board of Correction proves that you are either a blithering, gullible fool or someone whose personal opposition to capital is so intense that it has compromised your capacity to comment rationally.
Thanks for weighing in, Ron. I’ve covered the death penalty for more than a decade in depth, written about it for more than two dozen years, and welcome you to think whatever you’d like. An execution that involves a failure to execute the person is, by definition, a botched execution. If you can’t acknowledge that, and find it so hard to move on from that that you need to personally attack me, that’s on you.
First of all, stop pretending to believe that you've been "personally attacked." My context-specific comments were aimed directly at (1) your baseless accusation that Tennessee officials were somehow at fault and (2) your shameless regurgitation and promotion of ACLU talking points. When you trumpet nonsense, you should expect to be called on it--and that includes having your motives and understanding questioned and your biases exposed. If your only response to legitimate criticism is deflection, that is, to borrow a phrase, "on you."
And not that it matters--because everyone knows what "botched" really means and nearly as many understand that DIVA is not usually attributable to fault--but my expertise on the death penalty vastly exceeds whatever you think you have acquired by "covering" the topic as a blogger. Professional expertise (or any lack thereof) is not the issue; it's the ham-handed way in which you deliberately misuse language.
As you surely know, executions can "fail" for reasons unrelated to incompetence, carelessness, or clumsiness. As you also know, the only people who would so recklessly bandy about the word "torture" in reference to DIVA occurring in the execution context are those who wouldn't approve of executions under any circumstances.
Thanks for weighing in again, Chris. Your reply leads me to refine my observations. You are most definitely not a gullible fool. You merely hope that your readers are.
I used to think the South could get over its history.. I was wrong. It was born of hatred and ignorance and those two things will eventually destroy it AGAIN.
Abolish the death penalty in all cases.
Thomas & Alito - the Sclerotic Duo - what propels them? Like Trump, those two seems dissatisfied with their elite life (propped up by Leo’s Billionaire Boyz Fund) and want nothing but the worst for the rest of us. Sour peeled grapes?
We are in the darkest of dark ages again. What does the court know about IQ? Emotional Intelligence, Autism, etc.? The dissenting judges, Alioto especially, are low on so many other human and humane qualities. I am disappointed and angry. Are we back to Eugenics?
I happen to own a lovely piece of sculpture made by someone considered low IQ. He's made money and his family is quite wealthy as a result of his artistic talent. Could he follow a legal argument? Doubtful. Can he make high priced utilitarian stunning ceramics. Yes!
Enough of this garbage! Enough!
The death penalty is already the government’s most terrifying power. If the courts cannot draw a hard line against executing intellectually disabled defendants, then the system has become a bloodless procedure instead of justice. Smith spent nearly three decades on death row. Lower courts reviewed the record and found intellectual disability. That should end it. Roberts should know better. History will not grade this kindly.
Finally some good news. But the 4 evil magatand evil fukwads had to dissent. So cruel they are.
The Georgia Supreme Court ruled in the late 1980s that the Cruel & Unusual Clause of the Georgia Constitution bars the execution of mentally retarded defendants. Fleming v Zant.
Yet, Texas executed an intellectually disabled man last week after Ken Paxton challenged a stay from SCOTUS.
I’ve been advocating for abolishing death penalty since 1967 while living in the south
South Carolina just recently issued an opinion on IQ, and multiple IQ scores, of capital convicted persons. Might want to check it out.
Two weird things:
(1) Gorsuch being so pro death penalty when he is otherwise so skeptical of government power.
(2) The liberals almost never note dissents on denials of stays of execution.
We should have abolished the death penalty a long time ago.
As a physician, I put in IVs and central lines regularly. These are stressful experiences for patients, but can be done in ways to minimize distress. Central lines, are particularly stressful and uncomfortable. The fact that they tried and failed would have been torture. I can only imagine how many attempts were made on this man’s body in order for them to give up. Before canceling a surgery, we would make many attempts (with the patient’s consent).
The codes of ethics for nurses, EMTs, and doctors proscribe participation in executions. It’s a disgrace that states can find people to fill these rolls.
"Botched" means a task, procedure, or attempt has been ruined, spoiled, or poorly executed due to incompetence, carelessness, or clumsiness. It is synonymous with words like bungled, mishandled, or screwed up.
You have no basis for charging Tennessee officials with misfeasance. The most common reason for DIVA (difficult intravenous access) relates to the physical condition of the subject. Viewed in isolation, your accusations against Tennessee officials would merely demonstrate that you are profoundly ignorant. Your contention that the description offered by Carruthers' ACLU attorney--that Tennessee "tortured" Carruthers--is "likely more accurate" than the just-the-facts-m'am account outlined by the state Board of Correction proves that you are either a blithering, gullible fool or someone whose personal opposition to capital is so intense that it has compromised your capacity to comment rationally.
Thanks for weighing in, Ron. I’ve covered the death penalty for more than a decade in depth, written about it for more than two dozen years, and welcome you to think whatever you’d like. An execution that involves a failure to execute the person is, by definition, a botched execution. If you can’t acknowledge that, and find it so hard to move on from that that you need to personally attack me, that’s on you.
First of all, stop pretending to believe that you've been "personally attacked." My context-specific comments were aimed directly at (1) your baseless accusation that Tennessee officials were somehow at fault and (2) your shameless regurgitation and promotion of ACLU talking points. When you trumpet nonsense, you should expect to be called on it--and that includes having your motives and understanding questioned and your biases exposed. If your only response to legitimate criticism is deflection, that is, to borrow a phrase, "on you."
And not that it matters--because everyone knows what "botched" really means and nearly as many understand that DIVA is not usually attributable to fault--but my expertise on the death penalty vastly exceeds whatever you think you have acquired by "covering" the topic as a blogger. Professional expertise (or any lack thereof) is not the issue; it's the ham-handed way in which you deliberately misuse language.
As you surely know, executions can "fail" for reasons unrelated to incompetence, carelessness, or clumsiness. As you also know, the only people who would so recklessly bandy about the word "torture" in reference to DIVA occurring in the execution context are those who wouldn't approve of executions under any circumstances.
Thanks for weighing in again, Chris. Your reply leads me to refine my observations. You are most definitely not a gullible fool. You merely hope that your readers are.
I used to think the South could get over its history.. I was wrong. It was born of hatred and ignorance and those two things will eventually destroy it AGAIN.