Rejecting an RNC request on Friday, Justice Sam Alito nonetheless issued a warning about a Pennsylvania Supreme Court decision involving provisional ballots.
This Supreme Court strikes me as profoundly abnormal when compared to the Court in my law school days. Is it? Or is it just me?
From the juvenile breaches of civility and decorum (Alito in particular), to Gorsuch using "alternative facts" so brazenly that the dissent included photos to document the actual facts of the case It's not a normal court . In the same case (Kennedy v. Bremerton School District) Gorsuch refers to a show of "respect for Jesus Chris and Christianity that our Constitution demands..." What? In which part? I can't find that part. But that's because it doesn't exist!!!
I could go on and on.
It's not like I was in law school during the Warren Court years. Hardly. It was the Rehnquist Court, the Bush v Gore Court! Yet I'm constantly shocked by this Court. So is it just me or is it truly not a normal Supreme Court? It really scares me.
It's not just you. Look what you just wrote. All that you're saying is true. Trump's Justices are as Treasonous as the lawmakers who only work for Trump, not us.
Thanks. I was pretty sure it's them, but it's nice to get some validation from others. You all would set me straight if I were looking back through rose colored glasses!
I feel downright gaslighted and even taunted by this Court, especially Gorsuch and that leaker Alito (I'm not the only one who believes he leaked the Dobbs draft and told about Hobby Lobby before it was announced.)
Seems to me that SCOTUS is getting just as desperate as Donald as it (that is, as Alito, Thomas and Gorsuch) signals its interest in tipping the scale towards Red majority states’ “Election codes(s)”.
Why? If Trump wins, a Forever Reich. If Harris: Well, we tried … and any attempt to reform the court, buck stops here. (As if SCOTUS would take any responsibility, ethically or otherwise.)
I had written a long post on what I'd like to see happen to protect us and our Constitution from this lawless shameless christo-fascist rogue court. Then I recalled a recent article in The New Republic. I decided to just post a link instead for anyone who is interested. The only thing they didn't mention that I'm curious about is stripping the court of it's appellate jurisdiction. Congress can do this and has in the past.
The Case for Expanding the Supreme Court Has Never Been Stronger
I wrote a comment and for the second time my efforts, my typing on my phone with one finger, something happened and all was lost, joining my mind in the ruckus that is America as we approach November 5th.
We elderly are holding on for dear life and would appreciate being heard by the Biden administration and Kamala Harris that you have America protected from the disease that is Donald Trump and his Army of brainwashed minions who've been sucked in by a liar whose every criticism of the Left is actually true of what he wants for America.
Why is it known that he will turn our military against us and not known that the same is meant against him and his kind?
It's so hard to be so upset every minute of every day just waiting to see how soon he's going to release his terror on us. From communicating with other elderly people, we're all extremely upset. Why are the Trump seated Justices not thrown the hell out of the courts and charged with Treason? Why aren't the lawmakers whose salary is paid by our tax dollars removed from office nationwide for only answering to Trump instead of We the People?
We're paying for their wives and brats to live the good life while their MAGA husbands find it unnecessary for the poor to have their needs seen to?
Our system is rife with Treasonous individuals and it's well known because they aren't even trying to hide it. Is it fair that they aren't removed and pay the price for threatening our Democracy and the Democracy of the world? Do something about it before Trump has his day and life in America will be what he demands it to be.
Wake up, goddamn it! We elderly didn't devote our lives to this country only to have it ripped out from under us! Now we're being as forgotten as the great President Biden has been forgotten because of opinions above facts. You want to believe that lying puke of a man that the Biden accomplishments are all lies go ahead and continue licking Trump's Nazi boots and destroy everything The Biden administration has done to bring us up out of the ruins of your beloved psychopath.
Enough is enough. Stop the lies. Stop the wealthy. Vote for Kamala Harris and Tim Walz and stop a lunatic from having the ability to press a button and starting WWIII.
Women's rights have already been taken away by unjust Justices and woman hating politicians. Trump will take his stinking anger out on people of color and non-Christian religious and the LGBTQ. Do you really want to see concentration camps in America?
I'm no lawyer but the decision in the J6 case, Fischer v. United States, the court with almost ambiguous precision cuts to what I knew would happen in Trump's immunity case. Ambiguous precision meaning they leave an opening yet declare a closure based on assumptions of how Congress framed particular wording, to begin with, even though immunity was novel, as if a surgeon were to be tasked to remove a spleen and start cutting somewhere above the jugular to get to the spleen. The laws are not useful if inconvenient as written and useful if inconvenient if they can rewrite/re-interpret what isn't known to them to suit them. I may be off but that's my gut. They scare the crap out of me with the VA case. A.) The speed at which they took and decided a shadow docket case, on suspicions, or possibilities, when both lower courts held w/NO EVIDENCE but a 0.0001% probability, as indicated by research of the cases from past elections, is strong enough of a probability, of non-insurance actuary risk, to be absurd but okay? Does this mean one cry wolf howl is enough to throw the election, per Alito's swarming backward, if he finds it necessary? B.) As with the immunity case they indicate a chess piece has been moved but we are left knowing it wasn't a checkmate. If future circumstances warrant, as in remanding back to Chutkin, the checkmate is possible, but only in a game they play knowing not three moves ahead but the final outcome, that they'll let us know down the road unless it is leaked sooner. That may not make sense. Closing on VA, they let themselves off to come back around and with only probabilities and not concrete evidence of ineligible voters, not to have Youngkin find those eligible voters, and rule in favor, anyway, is ominous and way too convenient. Things may be very different if Gore had been decided differently with no help from Bush's brother, I opine, but this is screwing with an entire form of how our society is governed and the madman they granted immunity to. The immunity is narrow if a constitution exists but wide open without. Holy Cow.
“Controversial” means the Repubs don’t like it, at least in the circumstances being challenged.
Seems to me if the ISL “concept” means anything it’s that the legislature has the last word, end of story. Once you concede the principle that state judicial review is kosher, you can’t just second guess what the state court decides and put your thumb on the scale for the legislature. The Court in Moore said state judicial review is permissible, so that should foreclose further discussion.
Republicans gratuitously want to make it harder to vote. The issue here is a provisional ballot, which provides the state room to reject those that do not qualify.
In my state, the ballots are regularly provided at the polling place as a way to relieve the mind of voters that they can fill out a ballot when they are unable to do so by a normal check-in.
The ballots often are not counted because they are ultimately often not qualified votes. But better safe than sorry. The votes also are not likely to matter for the victory. But it gives a voter a chance to vote.
How about if the voices of we who pay their salary decide what's best for us in our legal system instead of what those other slobs who dare to call themselves lawmakers and whose salary we also pay and the Oligarchs who pay them to decide in their favor?
We don't have to put up with Justices who don't decide according to the Rule of Law. It's up to us to let any one of them drop all charges against Donald Trump... or not.
We have put up with the corruption that is pandemic in our Tri-Fecta governance. Why the hell do we allow our tax dollars pay for the useless grifters who are literally giving our nation away to the Authoritarians?
There is no excuse for allowing the disastrous conditions our tax dollars have been wasted on. We're damned fools for throwing our money into a system that works against us.
Enough with the excuses. We need to clean house and we only have until the 5th to do so.
*Bush v Gore* naturally came up on Prof. Steve Vladeck's Substack report on the Scotus decision, and it seems unmistakeable that Alito et al are signaling to the tRump campaign/GOP that they indeed would "look seriously" upon a PA Supreme Court - or any other state court - decision that in any way "re-interprets" state Election Code rules that apparently could "disfavor" tRump votes by allowing rules exceptions that would "favor" Dem voters.
However, one wonders if these sorts of challenges will arise if the election is decidedly one-sided, and tRump is routed by the Dem ticket...then again, the radical-right minority plus Roberts, Coney Barrett, and Kavanaugh surely would relish taking up a voter suit that in fact would codify a *Bush* intervention based upon a ISLD position. It ain't over 'til it's over.
This Supreme Court strikes me as profoundly abnormal when compared to the Court in my law school days. Is it? Or is it just me?
From the juvenile breaches of civility and decorum (Alito in particular), to Gorsuch using "alternative facts" so brazenly that the dissent included photos to document the actual facts of the case It's not a normal court . In the same case (Kennedy v. Bremerton School District) Gorsuch refers to a show of "respect for Jesus Chris and Christianity that our Constitution demands..." What? In which part? I can't find that part. But that's because it doesn't exist!!!
I could go on and on.
It's not like I was in law school during the Warren Court years. Hardly. It was the Rehnquist Court, the Bush v Gore Court! Yet I'm constantly shocked by this Court. So is it just me or is it truly not a normal Supreme Court? It really scares me.
It’s not a “normal” SCOTUS, Jill. Everyone in the world knows it’s the most corrupt, dishonest, biased SCOTUS in history.
They are not impartial. They have agendas.
It's not just you. Look what you just wrote. All that you're saying is true. Trump's Justices are as Treasonous as the lawmakers who only work for Trump, not us.
Richard La France
Thanks. I was pretty sure it's them, but it's nice to get some validation from others. You all would set me straight if I were looking back through rose colored glasses!
I feel downright gaslighted and even taunted by this Court, especially Gorsuch and that leaker Alito (I'm not the only one who believes he leaked the Dobbs draft and told about Hobby Lobby before it was announced.)
Calling this a warning is like calling Trump's rally comments dog whistles.
It's an invitation. And a promise.
Seems to me that SCOTUS is getting just as desperate as Donald as it (that is, as Alito, Thomas and Gorsuch) signals its interest in tipping the scale towards Red majority states’ “Election codes(s)”.
Why? If Trump wins, a Forever Reich. If Harris: Well, we tried … and any attempt to reform the court, buck stops here. (As if SCOTUS would take any responsibility, ethically or otherwise.)
I had written a long post on what I'd like to see happen to protect us and our Constitution from this lawless shameless christo-fascist rogue court. Then I recalled a recent article in The New Republic. I decided to just post a link instead for anyone who is interested. The only thing they didn't mention that I'm curious about is stripping the court of it's appellate jurisdiction. Congress can do this and has in the past.
The Case for Expanding the Supreme Court Has Never Been Stronger
https://newrepublic.com/article/183404/case-expanding-supreme-court-never-stronger-biden-immunity
They deserve the punishment for Treason and that's what this old guy has been screaming almost every day for the gods only know for how long.
Leave it to Alito to stir the pot
just before the election.
Am happy for you Chris Law
Dork has taken on wings and
flying high.
Gawd help us!
I wrote a comment and for the second time my efforts, my typing on my phone with one finger, something happened and all was lost, joining my mind in the ruckus that is America as we approach November 5th.
We elderly are holding on for dear life and would appreciate being heard by the Biden administration and Kamala Harris that you have America protected from the disease that is Donald Trump and his Army of brainwashed minions who've been sucked in by a liar whose every criticism of the Left is actually true of what he wants for America.
Why is it known that he will turn our military against us and not known that the same is meant against him and his kind?
It's so hard to be so upset every minute of every day just waiting to see how soon he's going to release his terror on us. From communicating with other elderly people, we're all extremely upset. Why are the Trump seated Justices not thrown the hell out of the courts and charged with Treason? Why aren't the lawmakers whose salary is paid by our tax dollars removed from office nationwide for only answering to Trump instead of We the People?
We're paying for their wives and brats to live the good life while their MAGA husbands find it unnecessary for the poor to have their needs seen to?
Our system is rife with Treasonous individuals and it's well known because they aren't even trying to hide it. Is it fair that they aren't removed and pay the price for threatening our Democracy and the Democracy of the world? Do something about it before Trump has his day and life in America will be what he demands it to be.
Wake up, goddamn it! We elderly didn't devote our lives to this country only to have it ripped out from under us! Now we're being as forgotten as the great President Biden has been forgotten because of opinions above facts. You want to believe that lying puke of a man that the Biden accomplishments are all lies go ahead and continue licking Trump's Nazi boots and destroy everything The Biden administration has done to bring us up out of the ruins of your beloved psychopath.
Enough is enough. Stop the lies. Stop the wealthy. Vote for Kamala Harris and Tim Walz and stop a lunatic from having the ability to press a button and starting WWIII.
Women's rights have already been taken away by unjust Justices and woman hating politicians. Trump will take his stinking anger out on people of color and non-Christian religious and the LGBTQ. Do you really want to see concentration camps in America?
Thank you for reading.
Law Dork, you're the best.
Richard La France
I'm no lawyer but the decision in the J6 case, Fischer v. United States, the court with almost ambiguous precision cuts to what I knew would happen in Trump's immunity case. Ambiguous precision meaning they leave an opening yet declare a closure based on assumptions of how Congress framed particular wording, to begin with, even though immunity was novel, as if a surgeon were to be tasked to remove a spleen and start cutting somewhere above the jugular to get to the spleen. The laws are not useful if inconvenient as written and useful if inconvenient if they can rewrite/re-interpret what isn't known to them to suit them. I may be off but that's my gut. They scare the crap out of me with the VA case. A.) The speed at which they took and decided a shadow docket case, on suspicions, or possibilities, when both lower courts held w/NO EVIDENCE but a 0.0001% probability, as indicated by research of the cases from past elections, is strong enough of a probability, of non-insurance actuary risk, to be absurd but okay? Does this mean one cry wolf howl is enough to throw the election, per Alito's swarming backward, if he finds it necessary? B.) As with the immunity case they indicate a chess piece has been moved but we are left knowing it wasn't a checkmate. If future circumstances warrant, as in remanding back to Chutkin, the checkmate is possible, but only in a game they play knowing not three moves ahead but the final outcome, that they'll let us know down the road unless it is leaked sooner. That may not make sense. Closing on VA, they let themselves off to come back around and with only probabilities and not concrete evidence of ineligible voters, not to have Youngkin find those eligible voters, and rule in favor, anyway, is ominous and way too convenient. Things may be very different if Gore had been decided differently with no help from Bush's brother, I opine, but this is screwing with an entire form of how our society is governed and the madman they granted immunity to. The immunity is narrow if a constitution exists but wide open without. Holy Cow.
You're right on the mark.
“Controversial” means the Repubs don’t like it, at least in the circumstances being challenged.
Seems to me if the ISL “concept” means anything it’s that the legislature has the last word, end of story. Once you concede the principle that state judicial review is kosher, you can’t just second guess what the state court decides and put your thumb on the scale for the legislature. The Court in Moore said state judicial review is permissible, so that should foreclose further discussion.
"Middle ground" depends on your acceptable range.
Republicans gratuitously want to make it harder to vote. The issue here is a provisional ballot, which provides the state room to reject those that do not qualify.
In my state, the ballots are regularly provided at the polling place as a way to relieve the mind of voters that they can fill out a ballot when they are unable to do so by a normal check-in.
The ballots often are not counted because they are ultimately often not qualified votes. But better safe than sorry. The votes also are not likely to matter for the victory. But it gives a voter a chance to vote.
How about if the voices of we who pay their salary decide what's best for us in our legal system instead of what those other slobs who dare to call themselves lawmakers and whose salary we also pay and the Oligarchs who pay them to decide in their favor?
We don't have to put up with Justices who don't decide according to the Rule of Law. It's up to us to let any one of them drop all charges against Donald Trump... or not.
We have put up with the corruption that is pandemic in our Tri-Fecta governance. Why the hell do we allow our tax dollars pay for the useless grifters who are literally giving our nation away to the Authoritarians?
There is no excuse for allowing the disastrous conditions our tax dollars have been wasted on. We're damned fools for throwing our money into a system that works against us.
Enough with the excuses. We need to clean house and we only have until the 5th to do so.
Richard La France
*Bush v Gore* naturally came up on Prof. Steve Vladeck's Substack report on the Scotus decision, and it seems unmistakeable that Alito et al are signaling to the tRump campaign/GOP that they indeed would "look seriously" upon a PA Supreme Court - or any other state court - decision that in any way "re-interprets" state Election Code rules that apparently could "disfavor" tRump votes by allowing rules exceptions that would "favor" Dem voters.
However, one wonders if these sorts of challenges will arise if the election is decidedly one-sided, and tRump is routed by the Dem ticket...then again, the radical-right minority plus Roberts, Coney Barrett, and Kavanaugh surely would relish taking up a voter suit that in fact would codify a *Bush* intervention based upon a ISLD position. It ain't over 'til it's over.