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STSteven's avatar

Excellent again, Chris. I thank you for the very thorough backstory and journey up to where we are now. Superb and clear as a bell. Many thanks!

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Cynbel Terreus's avatar

"From Eagan and Ross’s response:" and "As Eagan and Ross’s response put it"

Should be Doss not Ross.

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Chris Geidner's avatar

Fixed!

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Shelley Powers's avatar

My God, Chris, this is astonishing. And you covered this so well, so meticulously.

And why is this not in the media? This is judicial malfeasance of the worst kind. Not even the Fifth stretches this far (though of course, even the Fifth knows that Judge Shopping isn't something they want to talk about).

As your last paragraph notes: there seems to be absolutely nothing balancing this unreasonable use of power by these judges. Question: If Burke sanctions the lawyers, and they have no faith in the circuit court, do they have any recourse?

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Cynbel Terreus's avatar

Wouldn't be the first time lawyers have appealed sanctions I mean this seems to be basically mentioned with Rule 41

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Chris Geidner's avatar

Additionally: Given their prior willingness to go to the Eleventh Circuit with the mandamus petition, I'm not sure they lack faith in the circuit court under these circumstances.

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Cynbel Terreus's avatar

Also it's a little odd because Burke actually did order a preliminary injunction, so like it's not his ruling in the underlying case that's at issue, but how the lawyers themselves have been treated.

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Shelley Powers's avatar

I should have said that the Eleventh has not given these lawyers any reason to have any faith in the court. I suppose we can only hope that this insanity hasn't invade the entire Eleventh circuit.

Damn, this is twisty.

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Cynbel Terreus's avatar

I probably will be picked up soon enough, I mean Chris just released Part 2 and it would be weird to put something out without both parts.

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Susan Linehan's avatar

The mind boggles. So in the 5th Circuit judge shopping is OK but in Alabama mere allegations are enough to sanction lawyers for "doing it."

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Joeff's avatar

In CA5 it’s the judges who do the shopping.

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Joeff's avatar

In what kind of regime does a judge get to play prosecutor, jury,and jailer? Ok, maybe Italy.

Even in a criminal contempt case the court has to appoint a prosecutor if DOJ declines.

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Julie Duggan's avatar

Judge simply creating more fake chaos and noise - all directed at discriminating against LBGTQ.

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𝓙𝓪𝓼𝓶𝓲𝓷𝓮 𝓦𝓸𝓵𝓯𝓮's avatar

Yes, this is extremely concerning. They've restored to mob intimidation tactics just like their cult leader.

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Joe From the Bronx's avatar

The alternative defenses cited leads me to recall a lawyer explaining the response to a case about a dog bite. The defenses were the dog didn't bite you, anyway she's a real friendly dog/doesn't bite anyone, and besides, I don't have a dog.

I vaguely heard about this story from a friendly LGBTQ source & the implication was that they might have crossed the line. The two-parter breaks down a LOT of material to add more context.

These stories are often complicated. It's fundamental to have good reporters and analysts. Thanks.

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Cynbel Terreus's avatar

"It is a stark example of an interaction for which the panel excises all context in a way that — far from considering the lawyer’s perception of the situation — appears to be seeking to find fault."

So a fishing expedition. One must wonder if the panel in question is doing so for discriminatory reasons considering the cases and lawyers involved.

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Warren Brodine's avatar

Just wow. It sounds also like that direct assignment issue is reason enough to invoke rule 41 and pull the case out until the district can put it through an automatic assignment process.

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Randy's avatar

Maybe these judges should face some “sanctions” of their own. When partisan hack judges attack the rule of law, maybe the public should no longer be bound to behave toward them in a law-abiding manner. At least that is where these judges are taking the country. They keep pushing the bounds, and at some point someone will respond in kind. Then it will be blood and anarchy.

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Nadia Yvette Chambers's avatar

This smacks of the way the Bush Jr. administration went after the lawyers for terrorism suspects. I won’t be surprised if right-wing judges and prosecutors throw lawyers for people accused of LGBT-related offences in prison outright on a routine basis once the theocrats get a fuller stranglehold on power, at least if they don’t seize absolute power outright.

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Glenn Ingersoll's avatar

Thank you for covering . Unfortunately the quoted material appears in such tiny print I am unable to read it. And in the Substack app I can’t seem to enlarge it.

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Chris Geidner's avatar

Oh, that’s no good! Try opening it in a web browser and you should be able to enlarge the images from there.

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Glenn Ingersoll's avatar

I figured it out. If I treat the quoted sections as images rather than text, I click on them and they open up. Then I can zoom in.

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Susan Walking Tiger's avatar

Yes please take hate crime threats seriously

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