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Chris Geidner's avatar

So, no, you do not care about the law or the facts, as what you are saying is in no way accurate in its representation of either Alabama, as the record in the case makes clear, or the Voting Rights Act, as the case makes clear.

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Ray's avatar

I appreciate your willingness to engage in conversation.

Just because I don't understand the case the same way you doesn't mean I do not care about the law or the facts. Just an observation, it seems like you find it easy to dismiss ideas/opinions that you don't approve of.

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See, again, you're actually proving my point. This isn't about "ideas/opinions." It's about the Voting Rights Act and what every court to look at the matter concluded about Alabama's treatment of the voting rights of Black people in the state. It is *not* about your claimed individual experience, which evidence shows is not the norm. I do urge you to read my Q&A with Abha Khanna to delve much more into this if you wish: https://www.lawdork.com/p/law-dork-qa-with-abha-khanna

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Ray's avatar

I will look at that, thank you. On the personal experience comment, keep in mind that the entire reason a Voting Rights Act was neceesary, along with the ensuing cases, was because of many

Americans' negative personal experience regarding voting rights. Personal experience, although not the ultimate factor, is a factor to consider after all. Whether the courts have taken only one vantage point or many, by which to interpret the Law, does not mean that we as citizens are not at liberty to frame it in a different way, and argue different arguments for or against the law. We can then vote for those that think the way we do.

Chris, you know that as a republic, we are not a society ruled by experts, but by law, order, and the democratic processes that are a part of it, including an informed, thinking, and voting citizenry.

I understand the arguments in favor of Alabamas proposed map may not seem "orthodox" to Manu. But to many others they are orthodox. I love America!

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