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Susan V's avatar

I’m an optimist by nature but this past week has left me profoundly depressed and seriously worried about our future.

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Susan Linehan's avatar

I agree that the justices are going way beyond bounds. But if they remand to have Judge C decide what acts are official or not, her answer is pretty easy and should show up the court for the partisan idiots they seem to be.

Here is a proposed answer to that demand.

A sitting president is not immune to prosecution for

---Violation of 18 U.S.C. § 371 (Conspiracy to Defraud the United States)

---Violation of 18 U.S.C. § 1512(k) (Conspiracy to Obstruct an Official Proceeding)

---Violation of 18 U.S.C. §§ 1512(c)(2), 2 (Obstruction of and Attempt to Obstruct an Official Proceeding) or

---Violation of 18 U.S.C. § 241 (Conspiracy Against Rights [of voters])

[That's what he is charged with. Whether he VIOLATED those statutes by his actions is a jury question. That's the way crimes work. Is the Xtreme Court going to honestly say that a president is immune from breaking those laws? Except those who go with "well, if the statute doesn't SAY president" bit.]

Judge C could go on to say something like:

---"The president is not immune to murder charges for strangling his wife, or for charges he cheated on his income tax, or for a charge of DUI, or for posting pedophilia on the internet. Since we have not been presented with allegations that he has done those things, we do not have to address whether there is evidence to support such allegations. I cite them only as examples of statutes that could be violated which do not explicitly include the president as a defendant. If the president can convince a jury that he did the various acts alleged to have resulted in those violations as part of his official powers and duties as president, he can claim immunity for them and the jury will be so instructed."

Both sides have gone off on a tangent by focusing on ACTS and whether or not they are official. What matters is whether they were done in accord with his official POWERS AND DUTIES. I really hope Chutkan is smart-ass enough to do something like this. What are they going to do, fire her??

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