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David J. Sharp's avatar

Add to your list the sheer incompetence of it all. Especially from a party that wants to scrub America clean of DEI (i.e., people of color), trans people, gay people … and on and in. This is white supremacy?

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Sue Connaughton's avatar

Interesting that this signal group was discussing the planning of a military strike, yet who was missing from this group? No one from the military was a part of this signal group. Perhaps that is because every military officer knows it is against regulations to use a non government approved means of communication. So, while the military officials were planning the attack through official channels, the signal group acted as a shadow “chat” group- instead of acting in concert with the military planners?

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Theo VanWhy's avatar

Is this the tip of the iceberg? If these folks are regularly using an encrypted yet clearly vulnerable non-government-approved tool for their sensitive/classified conversations, what other breaches have there been that we -- or even they -- don't know about yet?

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A M's avatar

Check Joe Biden's garage

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David J. Sharp's avatar

“State secrets privilege” — the Trump version, “cuz I said so.”

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Calpolymom's avatar

Marco Rubio is such an obsequious little worm.

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Jean in Florida's avatar

He goes whichever way the wind blows (always has) in his quest for money & power.

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Radha Nichole Smith's avatar

Which is why outside of Florida he is unelectable!

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Debbie Detmer's avatar

Why if people are unhappy with the house reps not listening to them, as it appears there are NO OTHER WAYS OF STOPPING THIS MAN, they don’t rush to their local Republican office and scream for a RECALL of their representatives??? Elect someone else who hasn’t been purchased by Musk!!!

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Hannah Grace (she/her)'s avatar

Because the constitution doesn’t provide a way for us to recall congresspeople. That’s why we never have recall elections on them. And that’s why they have no fear of repercussions until their reelection is around the corner.

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Debbie Detmer's avatar

Ahh but certain states do have a recall process:

Recall of State Officials

Alaska Illinois New Jersey

Arizona Kansas North Dakota

California Louisiana Oregon

Colorado Michigan Rhode Island

District of Columbia Minnesota Washington

Georgia Montana Wisconsin

Idaho Nevada

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Erin's avatar

Not for federal office. Only for state offices. There are no federal recall elections anywhere.

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Hannah Grace (she/her)'s avatar

Yes, many states have ways to recall state officials, meaning the people who run the state. These aren’t the representatives in the federal government.

Unless I’ve missed something…

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Debbie Detmer's avatar

No, federal positions are immutable for now, BUT starting at the local level is where the voices of the people can still be heard. Shouting for recall when your representatives aren’t listening or are afraid to hold town halls or when the representatives spout blather will let them know we have alternatives! We mustn’t roll over. Local elections are our strong hold. If your local representative are ignoring or placating instead of acting against the silence of your federal representatives lets those federal know they will NOT hold that seat next election.

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A M's avatar

Musk started contributing to Republicans when the Democrats tried to destroy his companies with lawfare in revenge for ending the state-sponsored censorship at Twitter. If you don't like the result, just remember that you essentially did this to yourself by supporting a corrupt and weaponized bureaucracy. His companies would have been forced into bankruptcy if the Democrats were allowed to continue, and that is still their objective today. Musk did not purchase anything more than survival for his dream of making America great again, and your actions are what compelled him to do it.

https://x.com/RickyDoggin/status/1890202205770379625

https://x.com/TheRabbitHole84/status/1908969480551805272

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qZl_5xHoBw

https://x.com/AutismCapital/status/1847808836234797418

https://x.com/SawyerMerritt/status/1847846282410258876

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Debbie Detmer's avatar

And food safety, healthcare research, transportation safety, work place safety, senior care, mental health care and substance abuse care, combating climate issues??? All given up to help some privileged white South African zealot whose companies are currently existing on our government loans?? Please focus!!!

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David J. Sharp's avatar

Sadly, the gang that couldn’t shoot straight (ours, not the deported’s) is using real bullets.

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Lance Khrome's avatar

As if he hasn't done enough already, Hegseth is absolutely wallowing in dickishness, bellowing away at the cameras about "no classified material released something something", while the WH is admitting the virtual opposite. What, a month or so in office, and merrily screwing the pooch bigtime...oy-fecking-vey!

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A M's avatar

adding "oy's" and "veys" does not make your argument valid... and "screwing the pooch" best describes what the Biden regime did to America.

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Sister Suffragette's avatar

As if Pete Hegseth had dick to do with that operation.

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Christy's avatar

It makes sense to assume that Signal was being used for chats throughout this Cabal of Criminals. It would be foolish to not expect it.

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gigibelser@www.gigibelser.com's avatar

The Biden admin did the same.

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Andrea Tuthill 🇺🇸🏴🇮🇷🇨🇦's avatar

They think a SCIF is where you go to coordinate your stories, when you accidentally add a very well respected journalist to your chat. And, everyone is telling a different version of lies.

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A M's avatar

That's why old Joe had to pardon everyone

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Radha Nichole Smith's avatar

Likely the lot think a SCIF is a small sailing boat used to transport people between ship to ship or ship to shore.

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Donovan's avatar

People use signal because it supports End to End encryption, so even if a third party intercepts the communication, without the private key set at the beginning of the conversation, it is still encrypted.

However, without specific actions taken at the creation of a group chat the group chat is NOT E2E encrypted.

It's impossible to accidentally add a person to an encrypted chat, as they need access to the key, and encrypted chats are threaded not linear.

This means the people in the chat do not understand opsec, do not understand the basics of encryption and do not understand how the tools they use work. That is the greater concern.

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Laurie's avatar

Yes and maybe that’s why they’re so fiercely opposed disclosing the information because They’d have to disclose that They were using this App designed to delete all these likely illegal but at the very least unethical conversations

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A M's avatar

The hypocrisy is unbelievable: that statement actually applies to Hillary's closet mail server more than to anything else.

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Jack Jordan's avatar

It seems to me that we, as a nation, should be well past the point of permitting vague invocations of "state secrets" to obstruct legal proceedings or obscure information that would permit adjudication by a judge who is independent of the executive branch. We have long had a court that was created precisely to adjudicate matters pertaining to state secrets.

"The Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court was established by Congress in 1978" to review "applications made by the United States Government for approval of electronic surveillance, physical search, and certain other forms of investigative actions for foreign intelligence purposes." https://www.fisc.uscourts.gov/

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bobbie cottrill's avatar

Just shows how unqualified his people are for the job they are supposed to be doing. They are so dumb and that one was probably 🙄 don't know...drunk!!!

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MissNumbersNinja's avatar

He was a DUI hire.

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Kathy Hughes's avatar

Surprised he hasn’t yet appeared drunk in public!

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Andrea Tuthill 🇺🇸🏴🇮🇷🇨🇦's avatar

Do we know he hasn’t?

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MissNumbersNinja's avatar

I caught a bit of the congressional hearing this morning and if I hear correctly the question was raised as to whether he was on the sauce during the signal chat. Not sure there was any evidence of it though, seemed more of a "how do we know he wasn't" sort of question.

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gigibelser@www.gigibelser.com's avatar

https://x.com/EricLDaugh/status/1904687403719098546

this may get a lot more interesting than you guys think.

Judge Boasberg is way out of line, IMV,and risks impeachment. There are 2 sides to this aisle.

Would be good to recognize the US is bankrupt...and moves that are being made by this admin suggest a bankruptcy work out in all regards. Wait until the nation really learns about the '14 magic money printing machines' and how deep this goes.

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MissNumbersNinja's avatar

I agree the U.S. has serious financial problems. I've worked in finance and business management for 25+ years and it's plainly obvious we are not on a sustainable trajectory.

However, I have absolutely zero confidence that the Trump Administration has any idea how to fix it, or is even trying to fix it. All this fuss over DOGE relates to a very small percentage of the federal budget. Three quarters of the federal budget is social security/medicare benefits, defense spending and interest on the debt. DOGE is focused on the remaining quarter known as "discretionary spending", even if they cut it all it would not balance the budget.

There isn't an easy way out of this, but this dog and pony show the Trump administration puts on acting like they are fixing it, isn't helping.

Not to mention all the tax payer money they are wasting defending illegal executive orders in court and all the tax payer money they are wasting trying to hunt down and remove every use of the word trans, gay, and others. This costs money and it saves none.

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Mark S's avatar

In the first place, "Executive Orders" are, under tiny donnie t are no more than press releases...

Secondly, he is a figurehead. R Vought is running the country, or trying to.

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gigibelser@www.gigibelser.com's avatar

surprised he is still there....

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A M's avatar

> All this fuss over DOGE relates to a very small percentage of the federal budget. Three quarters of the federal budget is social security/medicare benefits

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"the DOGE crew revealed that 40% of the phone calls the Social Security Administration receives are from fraudsters"

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2025/03/video-elon-musk-doge-team-reveal-that-nearly/

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gigibelser@www.gigibelser.com's avatar

It's been noted time and time again that the President of the United States holds the executive power here. You may consider the E.O. orders illegal. They are not.

Bill Clinton was a master of E.O's.

Only congress can impeach judges or remove judicial districts. and they may do just that. There is significant judicial over reach here that appears to be co-ordinated by the left. You are bright enough to know that.

I am not going to take the time to post all of this supporting data but it is there.

One would think that the Dems would be interested in getting this country on the right track vs unbelievable corruption across the board in stunning depth, denying everyday Americans a reasonable and healthy life this admin is rooting out. It is obvious that what has been accomplished in a couple of months would not balance this budget. I have never seen a more impatient population.

it is no wonder Dem support is in the toilet.

To your point of removing 'trans', 'gay' etc. Not so.

One would have to realize that less than 1% of the gay community is trans. What took place in this last administration and in the gay community on this level promoting 'trans' was breathtaking. I happen to be gay and I was on various leadership committees here. This would not have been tolerated in the past as it was clear what is happening would happen: long fought for gay/trans rights would come under fire, as would all gays as an inclusive community. And the gay community fell for it. The Human Rights Campaign should be called out.

In my book it was a deliberate play with an agenda in place that is another topic entirely. I have trans friends..do not mistake that I am opposed to the trans community.

I could go on...

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MissNumbersNinja's avatar

"It's been noted time and time again that the President of the United States holds the executive power here. You may consider the E.O. orders illegal. They are not."

Nobody disputes POTUS hold executive power, but that doesn't mean the objective of an executive order is legal because POTUS doesn't have unlimited power. For example, POTUS could sign an executive order that every person the United States must vacate their house and surrender it to the government. I trust we can both agree that such an order is outside the scope of the power help by POTUS.

The legality of particular executive orders is not for you or me to decide, that is the role of the courts. My financial comment was based on the observation that 1) Trump is pushing the envelope of executive power vastly further than any President has done in the modern era and probably ever. 2) The administration is flooded with lawsuits because of #1, and 3) the vast majority of court rulings have gone against him. As a tax payer, this looks to me like a big waste of money paying lawyers to fight loosing battles.

" It is obvious that what has been accomplished in a couple of months would not balance this budget. I have never seen a more impatient population."

I agree, balancing the budget cannot be accomplished in a couple months. My criticism is not based on the timeframe, it's based on the absence of a coherent plan to actually accomplish this. The only plan I hear coming from the Whitehouse on the expense cutting side is DOGE, and as mentioned in my prior post, DOGE is focused on the 25% of the budget that is not social security/medicare, defense spending and debt payments. On the revenue side, the only thing I hear about are tariffs and there are a whole host of problems with that approach. Am I missing some significant piece of the strategy?

"To your point of removing 'trans', 'gay' etc. Not so."

I'm totally confused by your comments on this. You said that you are gay and are not against the trans community and yet you don't agree with me that the governments efforts purge every reference of trans and gay from government documents has a cost money and saves no.

What aspect of what I said don't you agree with? Let's break down the elements of what I said a) that the government is doing this purge b) that doing the purge costs money c) that doing so doesn't save money.

"One would have to realize that less than 1% of the gay community is trans"

Transgender people are 1% of the total population according to the 2020 census. I could send you a link to the census date, except the Trump admin purged that data. Fortunately I took screen shots.

Regardless, don't really understand what you were getting at. It sounds like some kind of concern about how much the Biden administration focused on trans people.

Whatever happened, take it up with Biden, I didn't have anything to do with it. What's happening under the Trump administration is a nightmare. I don't need the government up in my business about my medical decisions, where I go to the bathroom or what gender marker I have on my passport. Leave me the fuck alone.

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gigibelser@www.gigibelser.com's avatar

You started to opine re the legality of the EO’s. I countered. These judges, IMV and that of many others. are out of control. District judges are making decisions for the entire country. There are many decisions being won by the DT admin. This must be conclusively taken up by the Supremes or Congress and it appears Congress is reacting.

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gigibelser@www.gigibelser.com's avatar

Eminent Domain: I believe we did see this in the Biden admin. Look at what happened in Western North Carolina.

You do appreciate that DEW weapons were used to confiscate this land,right?

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gigibelser@www.gigibelser.com's avatar

“I don't need the government up in my business about my medical decisions, where I go to the bathroom or what gender marker I have on my passport. Leave me the fuck alone”

This is exactly what the Biden admin did. Just who created the lockdown during CV: now acknowledged as a tremendous error. Huh?

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gigibelser@www.gigibelser.com's avatar

We can go back and forth forever. Gay/Trans. This admin is removing the DEI programs. There is nothing I see aimed at gays. It is aimed at Trans in the military. Scott Bessant is gay. Rick Grinnell is gay.

My point is that the gay community brought this on themselves by not standing up to the outrageous display of sick, straight men in drag at elementary schools with their parents supporting this behavior and suggesting these individuals are ‘trans’ in the Biden admin. They are not.

It is a disservice to the trans community. It shapes public opinion and backlash in a negative way that impacts the entire gay community.

To institute those DEI programs was a great expense during the Biden admin. You only have to look at Boeing to see the costs of DEI hires.

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