Perhaps Justice Neil Gorsuch would do better telling his colleague, Justice Clarence Thomas, to be careful — rather than lecturing the rest of us. Also: A drag ruling.
Precedent obviously means nothing to this group. They’ve been waiting for this moment for decades. And lied to get their positions. We don’t need no stinkin’ code of ethics.
Gorsuch's threat is essentially same as Kevin Roberts (Heritage Foundation) recent threat: "we are in the process of a second American Revolution, which will remain bloodless if the left allows it to be".
The fascists seem pretty certain they have this election won. Because they are going going to hijack the election?
Thanks to 6 corrupt SCOTUS, Biden has immunity for all official acts......he should be using that now. Better yet on November 5th.
I found Justice Gorsuch's "be careful" comment to be quite disturbing; it sounded like it was directed at President Biden and his recent but long-overdue Court reform proposals. For a sitting Justice to urge the head of another branch to "be careful" with his reforms is ominous at best. For him to appear on right-wing propaganda channel FOX and hurl this warning at the President is unseemly and unethical, especially since his CJ has declined invitations to discuss with the relevant Senate committees the lapses of ethics and decorum revealed over the past two years.
I'm comforted to wonder, "How many legions has the Court?" But there are many ways SCOTUS can hamper the Executive, short of armed conflict. I cannot wait for this to resolve, preferably with more Justices, all term-limited and all truthful to their confirming committees.
At the American Bar Association meeting last week a retired federal district court judge called on lawyers to defend the independence of the judiciary because judges cannot speak for themselves and defend the third branch of government. I am certainly would not countenance personal attacks on individual judges for their rulings and think it is important to insulate judges from unwarranted criticism. However, as an institutional matter, no one has done more to undermine trust and confidence in the Supreme Court than judges like Thomas and Alito. Gorsuch seems to be saying that all criticism or reform are unwarranted. SCJ sit on the Supreme Court, not on Mt. Olympus.
Your main point is well taken. I was especially taken aback by his interview with David French in the New York Times, which seemed more of a softball interview - surprising since Ive considered French a more thoughtful columnist. Gorsuch's logic is weak in so many places and as for his "deciding for the ages" approach to Trump v The United States, it stands in contradistinction to his willingness to put stare decisis aside when it suits his ideological predispositions .
Another low point for the conservatives on the Court. Wrong on so many levels, substantively irrelevant, internally contradictory, tactically idiotic, and horribly timed. All of these guys are hyper-partisan wannabe politicians.
I’m so mad reading this article, Chris. Gorsuch and the others really do think they’re Gods! They are public servants, but have forgotten to be humble. How dare Gorsuch take such a threatening tone.
I don’t believe they are public servants when bought and paid for. Who the hell paid off Kavanaugh’s debts before he sat before the Senate? If it was his “family,” shouldn’t there be a paper trail via the IRS for the “gift taxes,” which are required if I want to give $20,000 to a family member?
When does serial tax filing of "amendments" actually become felony tax evasion? I mean, this grifter Thomas has a couple of decades worth of - let's be honest - fraudulent tax returns, and all that happens is yet another "amended" refile. Why? Only because journalists and Senators uncovered Thomas' tax fraud - and fraud it is, for god's sake! - over multiple years, and NOT because Thomas copped to it and confessed he deliberately withheld significant tax liabilities...hell, no.
This guy just doesn't give a shit, he's there for life, he does what he pleases when he pleases, and sod the rest of us.
Great point here. If you are not disclosing them as gifts on your taxes.... does that complicate another entity alleging they are gifts? If you go on a trip with your family, and one person pays for the hotel or accommodation, is that a gift that should be disclosed on your taxes? If you call it a gift on ur taxes but not a gift on ur disclosure, that is going to be a big problem.
The idea that the judiciary, this judiciary, led by this Supreme Court, is going to stand up for me when the government is coming after me is hilarious. When the government is coming after most people, that means the cops, and the SCOTUS has told the judiciary to let cops do what they want, and where there are exceptions, to not punish cops for wrongdoing. So no, Justice Gorsuch, I don’t need your “fiercely independent” judges that I don’t believe exist.
More to your point just look at the way the Court has weakened not only the right to choose but also the titanic decisions in Gideon and Mapp v Ohio and supported qualified immunity as well as the totally corrupt decision in Trump v the US not to mention voting rights which undermine any plausible meaning to Baker v Cart’s formulation of one man one vote
Chris is, of course, right to focus on Justice Thomas's unacceptable gift receiving habit. However, if you have time, I do encourage you to click on the WSJ or NYT links and read the full interview Justice Gorsuch gave them on his media tour. There's some good stuff there.
You also have to wonder what Justice Gorsuch’s “or else” might be. Ignore precedence? Take away more voting rights, gay rights? Sky’s the limit?
Precedent obviously means nothing to this group. They’ve been waiting for this moment for decades. And lied to get their positions. We don’t need no stinkin’ code of ethics.
Gorsuch's threat is essentially same as Kevin Roberts (Heritage Foundation) recent threat: "we are in the process of a second American Revolution, which will remain bloodless if the left allows it to be".
The fascists seem pretty certain they have this election won. Because they are going going to hijack the election?
Thanks to 6 corrupt SCOTUS, Biden has immunity for all official acts......he should be using that now. Better yet on November 5th.
I found Justice Gorsuch's "be careful" comment to be quite disturbing; it sounded like it was directed at President Biden and his recent but long-overdue Court reform proposals. For a sitting Justice to urge the head of another branch to "be careful" with his reforms is ominous at best. For him to appear on right-wing propaganda channel FOX and hurl this warning at the President is unseemly and unethical, especially since his CJ has declined invitations to discuss with the relevant Senate committees the lapses of ethics and decorum revealed over the past two years.
I'm comforted to wonder, "How many legions has the Court?" But there are many ways SCOTUS can hamper the Executive, short of armed conflict. I cannot wait for this to resolve, preferably with more Justices, all term-limited and all truthful to their confirming committees.
In the meantime, though, let's ITMFsA.
Okay. Democrats will CAREFULLY reform the courts. Thanks, Neil.
I wonder if the same sources will interview Justice Jackson since she too has a book coming out.
and just how independent is a judiciary when it’s been secretly bought by billionaires? we’d never know if it were up to Thomas, Gorsuch, et al
At the American Bar Association meeting last week a retired federal district court judge called on lawyers to defend the independence of the judiciary because judges cannot speak for themselves and defend the third branch of government. I am certainly would not countenance personal attacks on individual judges for their rulings and think it is important to insulate judges from unwarranted criticism. However, as an institutional matter, no one has done more to undermine trust and confidence in the Supreme Court than judges like Thomas and Alito. Gorsuch seems to be saying that all criticism or reform are unwarranted. SCJ sit on the Supreme Court, not on Mt. Olympus.
The arrogance of Gorsuch, Alito, Roberts Kavanaugh and Thomas is astounding
Your main point is well taken. I was especially taken aback by his interview with David French in the New York Times, which seemed more of a softball interview - surprising since Ive considered French a more thoughtful columnist. Gorsuch's logic is weak in so many places and as for his "deciding for the ages" approach to Trump v The United States, it stands in contradistinction to his willingness to put stare decisis aside when it suits his ideological predispositions .
Gee, this is the 3rd time
we've been warned to be
careful or it may not turn out
too well for us. I say, bring it!
See you on Nov. 5 when we
elect Kamala Harris, retake
the house and hold the
senate. Be careful what YOU
don't wish for; reformation of
SCOTUS!
Another low point for the conservatives on the Court. Wrong on so many levels, substantively irrelevant, internally contradictory, tactically idiotic, and horribly timed. All of these guys are hyper-partisan wannabe politicians.
I’m so mad reading this article, Chris. Gorsuch and the others really do think they’re Gods! They are public servants, but have forgotten to be humble. How dare Gorsuch take such a threatening tone.
I don’t believe they are public servants when bought and paid for. Who the hell paid off Kavanaugh’s debts before he sat before the Senate? If it was his “family,” shouldn’t there be a paper trail via the IRS for the “gift taxes,” which are required if I want to give $20,000 to a family member?
We need changes and now!
When does serial tax filing of "amendments" actually become felony tax evasion? I mean, this grifter Thomas has a couple of decades worth of - let's be honest - fraudulent tax returns, and all that happens is yet another "amended" refile. Why? Only because journalists and Senators uncovered Thomas' tax fraud - and fraud it is, for god's sake! - over multiple years, and NOT because Thomas copped to it and confessed he deliberately withheld significant tax liabilities...hell, no.
This guy just doesn't give a shit, he's there for life, he does what he pleases when he pleases, and sod the rest of us.
And Gorsuch "warns" us to "be careful"...grrrrr!
These are amended financial disclosures being discussed here, not amended tax filings, just to be clear.
Correct Chris, but 10 to 1 the
IRS will be chatting with
Clarence and Gini down the
line.
Great point here. If you are not disclosing them as gifts on your taxes.... does that complicate another entity alleging they are gifts? If you go on a trip with your family, and one person pays for the hotel or accommodation, is that a gift that should be disclosed on your taxes? If you call it a gift on ur taxes but not a gift on ur disclosure, that is going to be a big problem.
The idea that the judiciary, this judiciary, led by this Supreme Court, is going to stand up for me when the government is coming after me is hilarious. When the government is coming after most people, that means the cops, and the SCOTUS has told the judiciary to let cops do what they want, and where there are exceptions, to not punish cops for wrongdoing. So no, Justice Gorsuch, I don’t need your “fiercely independent” judges that I don’t believe exist.
More to your point just look at the way the Court has weakened not only the right to choose but also the titanic decisions in Gideon and Mapp v Ohio and supported qualified immunity as well as the totally corrupt decision in Trump v the US not to mention voting rights which undermine any plausible meaning to Baker v Cart’s formulation of one man one vote
Lying hypocrite.
And where pray tell is the IRS in all of this??
Waiting 😉
Like a cat ready to pounce on it’s unsuspecting prey
Chris is, of course, right to focus on Justice Thomas's unacceptable gift receiving habit. However, if you have time, I do encourage you to click on the WSJ or NYT links and read the full interview Justice Gorsuch gave them on his media tour. There's some good stuff there.
Bopp’s your uncle. Sorry