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Julie Duggan's avatar

This is really good news for Southwest, however obviously still a major problem with several of the federal judges, because judge Barr never should have required religious training anyway..... we have way too many Christian fascist judges operating in this country. They have yet to learn that the Bible is not the Constitution.

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Richard Careaga's avatar

When even the Fifth Circuit thinks you've over-reached as a District Court judge, you would think that would sink in. I bet not.

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DeVoid's avatar

Being overruled on a civil sanctions order is less of a slap on the wrist to encourage better judgment, and more of a.... well, nothing. It's nothing. It doesn't matter even a little.

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Richard Careaga's avatar

Well, I guess one man’s nothing burger is another man’s Big Mac? My impression that the 5th is the circuit most likely to have given a judge a pass on that particular topic. But I don’t practice there, so there’s that.

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PNS's avatar
Jun 10Edited

In fairness to Starr he also transferred venue to D.D.C. in a different case after plaintiffs (credit card companies) tried to forum-shop only to be rebuked by the 5th Circuit telling him to "recall" the case from D.C. back to Texas.

(Well I thought so at least - see bellow)

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Chris Geidner's avatar

No, that was Judge Mark Pittman.

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PNS's avatar

Oops.

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Richard Careaga's avatar

Maybe we’re talking about a different case? Mine is the SW Airlines case where defendant counsel was assigned to religious sensitivity training by an outfit with an agenda.

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Chris Geidner's avatar

PNS was referring to a different case, thinking it was also before Starr. It was not. See the thread. I responded several hours ago.

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Patt's avatar

Alliance Defending Freedom is a Christian nationalist organization responsible for sanctioned discrimination in the Masterpiece Cake, 303 Creative, and Dobbs decisions. They look for litigants.

It's a pretty weird group to be delivering religious liberty training. SPLC has designated it a hate group.

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Chris Geidner's avatar

There's lots of that in my past reporting there!

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Patt's avatar

I live in AZ. They've been on the radar here for a long time.

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Shelley Powers's avatar

“there is a strong likelihood that the contempt order exceeded the district court’s civil contempt authority."

So there is a bridge-too-far, even for the Fifth. I'm actually surprised.

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Brian M.'s avatar

Your paragraph about the Gilpin murder abruptly ends.

Thanks as always for your updates.

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Chris Geidner's avatar

Fixed. I think I must have been writing that when Carter came in.

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David Knickerbocker's avatar

No training from far right groups. Those are fascists.

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𝓙𝓪𝓼𝓶𝓲𝓷𝓮 𝓦𝓸𝓵𝓯𝓮's avatar

Thank fuck sanity reigned in this case🫠 The whole case was bullshit to begin with. And fuck state sponsored murder🤬

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Joe From the Bronx's avatar

The upcoming execution does seem gratuitous. He had an affair with a married woman (he admits to this part). She went back to her husband. The wife and husband were murdered.

He was convicted on the basis of some strong circumstantial evidence.

Granting he is not innocent (I don't know but other innocence claims are stronger that his), executing someone about 70 for a personal murder of this sort is questionable policy even if you agree with the death penalty. His crime (including a submachine gun & many guns was found in his car) shows he was a dangerous individual. But I do not see any evidence in multiple articles of a general life of crime.

Tragically, when he was a teenager, his father (a police officer) was murdered in the line of duty. Hosier later joined the navy. The place for him is prison.

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Mona's avatar

It's always always about $$$$ and how to swindle everyone.

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Mona's avatar

This is akin to fakecake case and was it imaginary wedding planning? It's astonishing that there is no arguing against fake and imaginary accusations.

Thank you, counselor.

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Hans Cox's avatar

Woot!

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